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Re: A few more videos

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:05 pm
by Horse
Good example of "where there's one, there's another" at 2 minutes in :)

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:55 pm
by GTR1400MAN
Horse wrote:Good example of "where there's one, there's another" at 2 minutes in :)

They were out in packs that day turning the roads into beaches. It wouldn't be so bad if they swept up properly, relying too much on traffic to do the bedding in.

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:34 pm
by Horse
GTR1400MAN wrote:
Horse wrote:Good example of "where there's one, there's another" at 2 minutes in :)
turning the roads into beaches.


When I was a kid (rather than being childish, which I remain - following my mate Brian's advice that there's no point looking forward to a second childhood until you have thoroughly finished with the first - we used to go on day trips to Lee on Solent beach.

Usually this would involve dad complaining about lumps of crude oil, from tankers on the way to Fawley refinery purging their tanks.

So sticky tarry mess and gravel - yes, a good comparison!

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:32 pm
by GTR1400MAN
Here's my latest video. Three overtakes that are a bit different to the standard ones normally discussed or used as examples. Look for safe opportunities. Don't be afraid to decide the overtake can not be continued. If in doubt, don't. There's always another opportunity around the next corner.

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:19 pm
by GTR1400MAN
My latest video looking at IPSGA for motorcycles and in particular Speed, Gear and Acceleration.


Re: A few more videos

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:11 am
by martine
Good stuff Mike.

Just a question about G when stopping on a motorbike. In a car we'll often leave the gears alone and stop in the gear we are in, then select 1st . On a motorbike (we'll at least some like my old Kawasaki Z650) if you are stopped in 3rd/4th/whatever, you can't then select 1st - so are you forced to go down through the gears on the approach before finally selecting 1st just before stopping or is there something I'm missing?

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:00 pm
by exportmanuk
Hi

No gears are still sequential, but we often advise associates to block change in the last few seconds before coming to a stop. click click click.
If you are slowing but looking to go then change as appropriate to your speed. Gears to go brakes to slow is the same

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:46 pm
by GTR1400MAN
As ExportmanUK says it's a true sequential box but you can do a pseudo block change as you are come to a stop, or arriving at a RAB on high speed dual c/w.

Hold the clutch in and press (usually!) the lever multiple times. Lots of riders will tell you their bike "won't" or they can't, but often they don't let the lever re-centre between clicks. Also a lot say "I'd never do that" then you follow them and they often take 2 gears and don't even realise they do it. You can also short shift up in the same way.

The key thing is you do need to be moving when you do it or you'll be stationary pretending to be Michael Flatley while the car behind gets ever more frustrated :)

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:22 pm
by Horse
On most 'reasonable' bikes, it's unlikely that you would go down more than two or three gears in one go. Keep in mind that a 400cc bike i had years ago would do 38 in first, but pull from 30 in top (6th). if you're getting a move on then you will be keeping the revs up. Also, part of the gear selection will include both the speed that you're slowing to and the gear needed to drive away and through.

Typically, i would do the majority of braking, then ease off the pressure, click click, match revs, go. With my bikes (never sports), I would rarely use first above walking speed. So, if approaching a roundabout with traffic or poor views, it would be a two-stage process: slow, gear, settle, keep rolling, clear? Go. If 'no', then stop and into first.

FWIW the MSF in the US, taught that during an e-stop riders should:
- use both brakes
- squeeze in the clutch (different to uk)
- go down one gear (ditto)

However, I've used this once. I'd got myself into a situation, parked car ahead and oncoming car. At pretty much the last moment the oncoming car cleared and I was able to drive around the parked car. Without the downshift, the engine wouldn't have pulled smoothly.

Re: A few more videos

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:16 pm
by martine
Thanks guys - so the 'pseudo' block change makes sense - I'll give it a try when I get my Z650 back on the road (bearing in mind I haven't used it for nearly 20 years it could be sometime!)