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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Horse » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:53 pm

Sorry I caused a fight and disappointment over the book :(

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Automo ... 2771481664 £2.80 :)

https://reviewrepcon.ml/documents/ebook ... vices.html Free? I haven't checked this link, so beware of downloads!

Second pic was only included because of previous comment about there always being a point where the verges meet ;) It was taken to be part of a series about using the sides of the road to determine what the road is doing and where it's going [pedant: yes, I know the road doesn't *actually* do anything or go anywhere, it just lies on the ground waiting for us to misunderstand ;) ]
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby GTR1400MAN » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:00 pm

Horse wrote:Sorry I caused a fight and disappointment over the book :(

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Automo ... 2771481664 £2.80 :)

*** Link snipped *** Free? I haven't checked this link, so beware of downloads!

First is out of stock ;) and the second looks well dodgy.
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Horse » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:53 pm

You should have bought it in 1988 like I did :) ;)
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Jonquirk » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:11 pm

One case where speed helps.

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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:08 pm

I'm going to be controversial and say I'm not a huge Sir John fan. The book is OK, but don't be too disappointed. Get one when you spot it cheap.
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Horse » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:39 pm

Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I'm going to be controversial and say I'm not a huge Sir John fan. The book is OK, but don't be too disappointed. Get one when you spot it cheap.


Put it into context: what else was available in 1988?

Roadcraft, still still bluebook
John Miles, Advanced Driving the Police Way - very good
IAM Advanced Driving, ho-hum

Alternatives to Rc
Tom Topper, Very Advanced Driving. Curates egg of driving thoughts
Keith Code, Twist of the Wrist, racing orientated but 'interpretable' (bikes)

RAC Superdriver was different. It wasn't really a 'technique ' book, but dealt with mental aspects.

FWIW, I rate his Coaching for Performance too :)
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:46 pm

I've had several goes at reading CFP, and found it very hard work, but did eventually finish it. It's meant to be THE coaching book, but I'm not sure I'll ever open it again. Superdriver, hmmm, maybe.

Tom Topper - I think the egg had gone off.
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby GTR1400MAN » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:11 pm

Spooky! :)

While chatting elsewhere about issues of Roadcraft. I went looking through my books for an early copy of MC Roadcraft (I stilll can't find it! Fear I've lent it out). In with various versions of RC were, various IAM books bike/car (HTBABR/D. PYAMT), Keith Code's two books, and the Motorcycle Foundation's Guide to Motorcycling Excellence: Skills, Knowledge and Strategies for Riding Right

... and then I dug out this that I forgot I'd got.

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It's certainly an alternative view and he has doesn't have a lot of time for the mainstream Advanced Organisations. It was written in a difernet time when the cars were different and the roads and the way of life. Still some good stuff in there with some dry humour. I'm half way through.
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Horse » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:01 am

Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I've had several goes at reading CFP, and found it very hard work, but did eventually finish it. It's meant to be THE coaching book, but I'm not sure I'll ever open it again. Superdriver, hmmm, maybe.

Tom Topper - I think the egg had gone off.


From CFP, read and use the GROW process, don't worry about the rest.

I was sceptical of the 'know nothing' coaching until I saw a NLP practitioner at work.
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Re: Book Promotion

Postby Gareth » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:33 am

Horse wrote:Put it into context: what else was available in 1988?

Blue was a good edition of Roadcraft but as to what else was available, "High-Performance Driving for You", "Prevent or Punish" and "Putting My Foot Down" ;-)
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