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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 4:02 pm
by Gareth
Horse wrote:Mr H is right about using the brakes potentially being a quicker way of covering ground than using engine braking (not gears) alone.

If it were cars then this would just be stating the blindingly obvious, (which I do frequently), so I assume I'm missing something about motorbikes; do they generally have enormous amounts of engine braking?

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 4:25 pm
by Horse
crr003 wrote:Mainly to see if I can spot something dodgy.


:mrgreen:

crr003 wrote:to try and understand the thought process of the two wheeled.


Usually "Nah, it'll never happen to ... AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHH! CRUNCH"

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 4:29 pm
by Horse
Gareth wrote:do they generally have enormous amounts of engine braking?


Many, yes, although it does vary. Old two strokes, no.

Also bikes are horrendous for aerodynamics compared to cars, so a double-whammy braking effect at higher speeds.

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 5:24 pm
by Strangely Brown
Horse wrote:
crr003 wrote:Mainly to see if I can spot something dodgy.


:mrgreen:

crr003 wrote:to try and understand the thought process of the two wheeled.


Usually "Nah, it'll never happen to ... AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHH! CRUNCH"


Really? I thought it was, "Watch this ...AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHH! CRUNCH"

Or is that only the Power Ranger brigade?

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:37 pm
by GTR1400MAN

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:49 am
by GTR1400MAN


Hmm, using the clutch lever like a car. A lot of the changes on a bike only require a little flick of the lever to separate the clutch plates.

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:30 am
by Horse
GTR1400MAN wrote:Hmm, using the clutch lever like a car. A lot of the changes on a bike only require a little flick of the lever to separate the clutch plates.


I tried, just a few times, clutchless changes (cf your 'quickshifter') experience, but didn't find it comfortable. Also, I probably used the clutch 'car like'.

But I wonder whether the nike imposes 'preferences' on the rider?

My bikes were lumbering tourers, slow revving, with heavy flywheel and shaft drive.

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:55 pm
by GTR1400MAN

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:34 pm
by GTR1400MAN
My comment left on YouTube: Interesting video Reg. It clearly highlights the dilemma of understanding/explaining the difference between off-siding and straightening. Having said you shouldn't go offside for IAM/ROSPA the footage shows you doing just that (as I would in those particular situations, as it was more like straightening). What the IAM are trying to stop, and we've all seen them, riders jumping offside way too late on approach to a left bend to GAIN a view. The trouble is that view gained could be full of a vehicle heading towards you at speed. Out on the sort of roads you are on in the video, the excellent view allows much more scope for positioning to MAINTAIN the view you have. Will be interested to see the rest of this mini series.

Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:47 pm
by GTR1400MAN