Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

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Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby GTR1400MAN » Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:28 am

A new series from Reg similar to the one he did for cars.

It will be interesting to see/hear his riding and views as an examiner. He's gone from a non-rider to Examiner in a short space of time, as covered in this intro about his motorcycling history.

Mike Roberts - Now riding a Triumph Explorer XRT. My username comes from my 50K miles on a Kawasaki 1400GTR, after many years on Hondas of various shapes and styles. - https://tinyurl.com/mikerobertsonyoutube

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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby RiK » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:57 pm

I'll let you take up the reigns for posting these Mike, I've done my bit on the cars.. ;-)
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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:06 pm

Here's the next instalment



I've asked in the YT comments about the use of Cruise Control , that he is using while videoing, on test.
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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:20 am

Here's the next instalment.

Another one pluralisng Observation. If you do that the title should be Observations and Plans. I see a few people doing this, always referring to Observation as Observations. It grates for me. Probably just me. :) Otherwise a good upload.

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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby Horse » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:36 am

Stick with the MSF's 'Search' ;)

The comparison I've used before is:
- Coppers in car car, parked up, with stock of coffee and doughnuts, 'observing' to see what happens
- Police dog, nose down, 'searching'

Active search Vs passive observe

MSF suggest the importance of moving from passive 'looking' to active search.

They used to suggest:
Search
Predict
Act

Later altered :
Search
Evaluate
Act
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.

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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:12 pm

Observe seems fine to me :)

"notice or perceive (something) and register it as being significant"

"watch (someone or something) carefully and attentively."
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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby Horse » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:12 pm

Next time you lose some money down the back of the sofa, keep watching the sofa ;)

If you want your money back, search for it :)
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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby GTR1400MAN » Tue May 03, 2022 7:29 pm

A good explanation of something people often misunderstand.

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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby Horse » Wed May 04, 2022 7:46 am

GTR1400MAN wrote:A good explanation of something people often misunderstand.


Do you mean misunderstood as in incorrect implementation?

Is it easier to explain with statements such as:
- slowing in the gear you are already in
- being able to comfortably achieve all the braking needed
And
- if you think that you will need to have a lower gear to get sufficient braking, use the brakes

As the video progresses, RL seems to move on from his initial explanation. His commentary at about 8:30, 10:35 and 12:35 seem to alter the stance, including something like "I'm maintaining third, I haven't taken it to slow down".

As this excellent resource says ;)

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/p/diy ... g.html?m=1

As before: use the brakes if you have to, remember that 'engine braking' means using the engine to slow you - not the gearbox, only change down when the revs have dropped, then use the throttle to match the revs with your road speed.
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Re: Reg Local - How to pass an Advanced Motorcycle Test

Postby Horse » Wed May 04, 2022 7:47 am

Have any of the 'car only' members here, with no bike experience, been watching these videos?

Any thoughts?
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