GTR1400MAN wrote:GTR1400MAN wrote:crr003 wrote:On a learner motorbike test would the powers that be expect a "proper" shoulder check?
Yes.
I have since spoken to learner instructor and the key phrase is "effective rear obs". He says he only teaches mirror plus blind spot check for pulling away from the kerb. A quick search online finds many school sites saying "shoulder check" or "over the shoulder check" as well as "blind spot check". So who knows?
Reading between the lines I can feel local examiner preferences having some influence.
Getting a bit away from your normally super videos!
I meant "Moving off" from the side of the road - I can understand moving off could be interpreted as moving off from traffic lights or give way lines etc.
Here's something from the latest DVSA book (DT1) on how to test people (cars) relating to moving off (from the side of the road):
"The examiner should observe whether the candidate first sees to the front, then to the rear, that the way is clear for pulling out, gives the appropriate signal if necessary, and moves away smoothly and safely......" It doesn't say the percentage of rear observation, but mirrors cover a fraction of the 180 degrees.
Looking at my old "Driving the Essential Skills", which is the how people are supposed to be taught to drive (ha!), the "moving off" bit includes:
"Now make your final safety checks, use your mirrors and look over your right shoulder to check the blind spot.
Decide if a signal is necessary."So a pedantic (well trained?) Examiner will expect an over the shoulder/blind spot check to the right. Note the forward thinking advice to signal
if necessary. Good luck finding an ADI who will teach that level of
advanced technique. Better/safer/easier/quicker to just always signal.