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Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 am
by vanman
Horse wrote:
vanman wrote:
Just upgrade the H4 bulbs, simples. :D


If the lens is cr@p you'll just get brighter poor lights.

Similar to when people use Xenon kits or LED bulbs but it puts the light source at the wrong point.


So I'll drive 10 to 15mph slower, on the times I drive on country roads at night. :gear:

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:58 pm
by Horse
jont- wrote:
Or when it fails that's the end of the lifetime of the car? :twisted:


I suppose a light array should be fixable, but I do wonder about vehicle restorers of the future when things like flat panel display pixels fail.

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:59 pm
by jont-
Horse wrote:
jont- wrote:
Or when it fails that's the end of the lifetime of the car? :twisted:


I suppose a light array should be fixable, but I do wonder about vehicle restorers of the future when things like flat panel display pixels fail.

Maybe the resto-mod trend by then will be to retrofit analogue gauges? :lol:

More seriously, will anyone be interested? Are cars of the current generation really sufficiently interesting for anyone to want to keep them going in 20+ years time? (and given there's often an age/nostalgia link to popularity and values of older cars - are the current generation of kids interested enough? In the same way that 80s/90s car values have picked up significantly over the last decade and arguably pre-60s cars have dropped)

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:30 pm
by Horse
jont- wrote:
More seriously, will anyone be interested?

In the same way that 80s/90s car values have picked up significantly over the last decade and arguably pre-60s cars have dropped)


Good question. Will gas guzzling polluters eventually be seen as a thing of shame rather than a joy to behold?

I guess the price thing reflects people buying nostalgia either what they had or what they dreamed of.

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:53 am
by jont-
Horse wrote:
jont- wrote:
More seriously, will anyone be interested?

In the same way that 80s/90s car values have picked up significantly over the last decade and arguably pre-60s cars have dropped)


Good question. Will gas guzzling polluters eventually be seen as a thing of shame rather than a joy to behold?

I guess the price thing reflects people buying nostalgia either what they had or what they dreamed of.

Indeed, but anecdotally it seems young folk are (in general) less interested in cars than previous generations. And quite possibly many youngsters are simply dreaming of owning their own home.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cultur ... orts-cars/

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:30 am
by Horse
jont- wrote: anecdotally it seems young folk are (in general) less interested in cars than previous generations.


Uh-oh. Average age and greyness of AD driving days has just gone up ;)

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:10 pm
by Horse
Horse wrote:
I'll admit to being a hypocrite here, I'll complain about the glare as Xenon-equipped cars come over a crest and the auto-levelling didn't adapt


Seems a fix is available:


Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:13 am
by jont-
Horse wrote:
Horse wrote:
I'll admit to being a hypocrite here, I'll complain about the glare as Xenon-equipped cars come over a crest and the auto-levelling didn't adapt


Seems a fix is available:


There's a point at which I think if you need a lighted lane guide to tell you how wide your car is, perhaps driving isn't for you? Instead of ever more not-quite good enough tech we should stop the expectation that anyone, no matter how inept, should be allowed to hold a driving license indefinitely on the basis of passing a short test in daylight (and quite possibly good weather) many years prior. :soap:

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:43 am
by Horse
Yes, I did have a slight WTF? moment with that. If it accurately showed the vehicle width, it night ease some of those "You could get a bus through there!" events :)

Re: Driving in the dark

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:08 am
by jont-
Seems ADAC don't like the LED maintenance burden either:
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/m ... d-lighting