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Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:49 pm
by Ohlins
It's also worth looking at Young Driver: https://www.youngdriver.eu/lessons_and_experiences

You can buy one lesson at a time, so you aren't committed to a whole week in one go or going every single week. And the instructors are, in my experience, excellent at making safe driving fun for teenagers.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:28 am
by waremark
Ohlins wrote:It's also worth looking at Young Driver: https://www.youngdriver.eu/lessons_and_experiences

You can buy one lesson at a time, so you aren't committed to a whole week in one go or going every single week. And the instructors are, in my experience, excellent at making safe driving fun for teenagers.

This looks like regular first driving lessons similar to the way you would otherwise start after 17. The course we were discussing before seemed vastly more than that.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:17 pm
by hir
Ohlins wrote:It's also worth looking at Young Driver: https://www.youngdriver.eu/lessons_and_experiences

You can buy one lesson at a time, so you aren't committed to a whole week in one go or going every single week. And the instructors are, in my experience, excellent at making safe driving fun for teenagers.


Is it just me, or does anyone else think that £88 an hour is a bit excessive for an hour’s driving lesson?

I know that prices will have increased since I had my driving lessons @ 5/- (25p) an hour, but £88, really?

I would get out more but fuel is too expensive. I gave up driving when petrol got to 2 shillings and 10 pence (13p) a gallon!

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:44 pm
by waremark
hir wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else think that £88 an hour is a bit excessive for an hour’s driving lesson?

I know that prices will have increased since I had my driving lessons @ 5/- (25p) an hour, but £88, really?

I would get out more but fuel is too expensive. I gave up driving when petrol got to 2 shillings and 10 pence (13p) a gallon!

You would expect to pay more in order to have access to an offroad facility. Seems steep but it could be a cartel - there are several equivalents offered online at that sort of price.

I'll treat you to some of my petrol when you are up for it.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:41 pm
by Horse
waremark wrote:
hir wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else think that £88 an hour is a bit excessive for an hour’s driving lesson?

I know that prices will have increased since I had my driving lessons @ 5/- (25p) an hour, but £88, really?

You would expect to pay more in order to have access to an offroad facility
. Seems steep but it could be a cartel - there are several equivalents offered online at that sort of price.


One of the young driver session venues is Newbury Showground.

I rented a 300 metre straight stretch of road there last year. £700 for the day.

If you want more, kerching. Toilets? kerching!

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:59 pm
by hir
Horse wrote:
waremark wrote:You would expect to pay more in order to have access to an offroad facility[/b]. Seems steep but it could be a cartel - there are several equivalents offered online at that sort of price.


One of the young driver session venues is Newbury Showground.

I rented a 300 metre straight stretch of road there last year. £700 for the day.

If you want more, kerching. Toilets? kerching!


OK, understood.

I was forgetting, there were lots of disused airfields available back when; nobody was remotely bothered about a father trying to teach his young lad how to avoid stalling the car, crashing the gears, or burning the clutch out! Matching airfield was where I and many of my school mates made our first tentative attempts at driving.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:51 pm
by Horse
Part of my day job often involves identifying and hiring facilities. There is an ever-decreasing number available.

FWIW
Bruntingthorpe, no longer available, 100% car storage
Longcross, ditto, Netflix studios
TRL Crowthorne, housing estate
Duxford, available but on borrowed time, housing
Upper Heyford, main runway permanently booked, 'NATO Taxiway' almost permanently Thames Valley Police
Moreton, National Highways & fire training
etc.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:49 am
by jont-
Horse wrote:Part of my day job often involves identifying and hiring facilities. There is an ever-decreasing number available.

FWIW
Bruntingthorpe, no longer available, 100% car storage
Longcross, ditto, Netflix studios
TRL Crowthorne, housing estate
Duxford, available but on borrowed time, housing
Upper Heyford, main runway permanently booked, 'NATO Taxiway' almost permanently Thames Valley Police
Moreton, National Highways & fire training
etc.

Yup. Don't forget requirements about public liability insurance etc too. Years back Chelmsford MC would hire a disused RAF runway/peri track (still active base) for £250 bung to the naafi. Can't do that any more :cry: And also secondary uses - eg North Weald driver training area is also used for a market, so often littered with bits of broken coat hanger and other FOD waiting to ruin paintwork or tyres.

I think Llandow and Blyton circuits are still relatively cheap, but still thousands not hundreds.

Re: Young Drivers (again)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:16 pm
by Horse
jont- wrote:
Horse wrote:Part of my day job often involves identifying and hiring facilities. There is an ever-decreasing number available.


Yup. Don't forget requirements about public liability insurance etc too.


Well, the Co. cover that. Although one site required a risk assessment, full description of what we would be doing, umpteen questions relating to getting spectators in and managed (none), whether we would have PA systems, or be digging holes. Oh, can we have your disaster management plan too.