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Re: Empty roads

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:29 am
by vanman
Probably a blind spot, try looking around the A pillar, OH sorry bike erm... :D

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:36 pm
by Horse
vanman wrote:Probably a blind spot, try looking around the A pillar, OH sorry bike erm... :D


BMW C1? :)

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:50 pm
by Horse
jcochrane wrote:Lateral movement on the approach to junctions is a very old trick when on two wheels to get spotted and works quite well.
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Any idea when and where you first heard of it?

The first 'in print' I know of was in the [now defunct] Motorcycle and Workshop magazine, Nov '88, written by Ed Reid.

More recently, the action has become more well-known after dragonfly hunting was researched!

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Re: Empty roads

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:54 pm
by Horse
Parental guidance advised:


Re: Empty roads

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:10 pm
by ancient
Looming, hmmm...
I remember learning to drive a car. Once I found a school with an instructor who actually knew the HC (it took a few schools :roll: ), I went out on my first full lesson. Round the side streets then "OK, let's see you take it out on the main road". After a few minutes (this was a very urban environment) "You're a motorcyclist aren't you?"; me "Yes, how do you know?"; "Every side-turning you shoulder-check and move out across the lane and check what is approaching"; me "Oh sorry, am I not meant to do that in a car?"; "No it's fine but unusual in a new driver".

Goodness that was a long time ago! :lol:

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:58 pm
by Horse
My ex- had been riding bikes for a few years before taking car lessons. Lesson #1, off down rural. Instructor had kittens as she started using cornering lines :)

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:03 am
by jcochrane
Horse wrote:
jcochrane wrote:Lateral movement on the approach to junctions is a very old trick when on two wheels to get spotted and works quite well.
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Any idea when and where you first heard of it?

The first 'in print' I know of was in the [now defunct] Motorcycle and Workshop magazine, Nov '88, written by Ed Reid.

More recently, the action has become more well-known after dragonfly hunting was researched!


Something that I've always known since I was 5 years old. It was obvious to us as kids. We just knew it made sense and that it was obvious to move laterally to attract attention. We did not need to read it in a book. I don't think there were any books about driving or riding back then anyway, if there were I never came across them. As kids we worked these things out for ourselves, Just as I worked out heel "n" toe out of necessity when driving old bangers at the age of 7, never knew that's what it was called until years later.

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:27 am
by Horse
jcochrane wrote:
Horse wrote:
jcochrane wrote:Lateral movement on the approach to junctions is a very old trick when on two wheels to get spotted and works quite well.
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Any idea when and where you first heard of it?

The first 'in print' I know of was in the [now defunct] Motorcycle and Workshop magazine, Nov '88, written by Ed Reid. More recently, the action has become more well-known after dragonfly hunting was researched!


Something that I've always known since I was 5 years old. It was obvious to us as kids. We just knew it made sense and that it was obvious to move laterally to attract attention.


You might be surprised how many growned-ups object to it now!

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:05 am
by sussex2
Years driving a bright yellow MX5..taught me to understand that people do not look..they do not look to see the actual road surface clear.

Re: Empty roads

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:06 pm
by jcochrane
Horse wrote:
You might be surprised how many growned-ups object to it now!



Parents never knew what we got up to on bikes and there was far less traffic around back then.
Same applies to driving cars, my parents never knew, the old bangers were courtesy of local farmers. Happy days and where I learnt just about all I know about driving all down to trial and error. (Probably explains why I am such a terrible driver.). I can't see this opportunity for today's youngsters except off road. That's where the Under 17 club is so good.