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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

So all those tests and training since 1997 were for what?

How many B+E trainers are out of business over night?

Could at least have kept a theory test. Presumably a convenient trick to free up examiners for lorry tests.

jont- wrote:Could at least have kept a theory test. Presumably a convenient trick to free up examiners for lorry tests.

That would be exactly what it is.

GTR1400MAN wrote:...
How many B+E trainers are out of business over night?

A tad melodramatic? If they're ADIs they can keep earning by taking learners, which they will be qualified for.

People pay IAM and RoADAR for tests and training they don't legally need; I wonder how many will still take towing training without the need for a test?

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:...
How many B+E trainers are out of business over night?

A tad melodramatic? If they're ADIs they can keep earning by taking learners, which they will be qualified for.

People pay IAM and RoADAR for tests and training they don't legally need; I wonder how many will still take towing training without the need for a test?

There seems to be quite a few dedicated towing companies/sole traders.

GTR1400MAN wrote:

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:...
How many B+E trainers are out of business over night?

A tad melodramatic? If they're ADIs they can keep earning by taking learners, which they will be qualified for.

People pay IAM and RoADAR for tests and training they don't legally need; I wonder how many will still take towing training without the need for a test?

There seems to be quite a few dedicated towing companies/sole traders.

It'll only take the insurance companies to rally round and say you're not insured to tow a tin tent etc. without x hours of professional training. Could be the best thing that happened to them.

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:...
How many B+E trainers are out of business over night?

A tad melodramatic? If they're ADIs they can keep earning by taking learners, which they will be qualified for.

People pay IAM and RoADAR for tests and training they don't legally need; I wonder how many will still take towing training without the need for a test?

There seems to be quite a few dedicated towing companies/sole traders.

It'll only take the insurance companies to rally round and say you're not insured to tow a tin tent etc. without x hours of professional training. Could be the best thing that happened to them.

Now, where's Horse questioning whether training actually delivers any benefits in terms of reduced accident rates...

jont- wrote:

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:

crr003 wrote:
People pay IAM and RoADAR for tests and training they don't legally need; I wonder how many will still take towing training without the need for a test?

... hours of professional training. Could be the best thing that happened to them.

Now, where's Horse questioning whether training actually delivers any benefits in terms of reduced accident rates...

FWIW
a Grandfather rights for towing
b Never had training
b Rubbish at towing on the few occasions I've tried (ie getting in knots when reversing

It's an interesting situation. How much of the specific training is skills and how often does a lack of skill cause safety issues (rather than 'just' damage claims)? [Weight distribution? How not to get a speed wobble? Are you stuffed if you do? etc]

I have Grandfather rights. Generally have no problems (towing a dinghy or a box trailer), but I am still rubbish at reversing a small trailer which can't be seen in the mirrors until it suddenly appears sideways.

Horse wrote:

jont- wrote:

crr003 wrote:

GTR1400MAN wrote:

... hours of professional training. Could be the best thing that happened to them.

Now, where's Horse questioning whether training actually delivers any benefits in terms of reduced accident rates...

FWIW
a Grandfather rights for towing
b Never had training
b Rubbish at towing on the few occasions I've tried (ie getting in knots when reversing

It's an interesting situation. How much of the specific training is skills and how often does a lack of skill cause safety issues (rather than 'just' damage claims)? [Weight distribution? How not to get a speed wobble? Are you stuffed if you do? etc]

And how many problems are just general driver ineptness rather than anything trailer specific.

I'm still surprised there wasn't at least a theory test to check speed limit knowledge and refresh HC knowledge.