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Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:25 pm
by sussex2
So much for the days when I used to have a senior member of the UK royal family, plus an important businessman in the back of my car; alone with no escort and nobody trailing us.
I wonder why it seems to have gone a bit OTT.

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:26 pm
by sussex2
Triquet wrote:If it was just blood or organ transport why not just take it by bike ....


I'd argue that blood or an organ should be given the highest priority.

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:27 pm
by Horse
angus wrote:
Horse wrote:
angus wrote:Having seen videos of the DPG


SEG Special Escort Group?


Yes - I thought they were called Diplomatic Protection Group - either they were or I imagined it....


I think they're the ones stood close to the VIP, looking twitchy behind their mirror shades, talking to their wrist, and trying not to reach under their left armpit if a member of the public waves.

Or have I watched too many American movies? ;)

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:39 pm
by Horse
sussex2 wrote:
Triquet wrote:If it was just blood or organ transport why not just take it by bike ....


I'd argue that blood or an organ should be given the highest priority.


For those who don't don't know, in the UK there are 36 'blood bike' volunteer groups. They also carry a range of other medical stuff, even breast milk.



Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:02 pm
by Horse
Strangely Brown wrote:ETA: This is the full video with input from the participants


FWIW, this video only came to be on tv for three reasons.

First was that a couple of Met coppers realised the potential for in-car video to be used for education rather than just prosecution. Ian Kerr won the Torrens Trophy for this and other work.

They were asked to have a stand at the Ally Pally bike show, with the videos showing. A tv producer saw that and thought it would make a good programme. Police Camera Action was born.

When the 'liver' job came up, someone decided to get the video car (very rare at that time) included.

Strangely Brown wrote:annoying, and multiple drink-drive prosecution, Alastair Stewart.


ftfy

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:06 pm
by jcochrane
Horse wrote:
angus wrote:
Horse wrote:
angus wrote:Having seen videos of the DPG


SEG Special Escort Group?


Yes - I thought they were called Diplomatic Protection Group - either they were or I imagined it....


I think they're the ones stood close to the VIP, looking twitchy behind their mirror shades, talking to their wrist, and trying not to reach under their left armpit if a member of the public waves.

Or have I watched too many American movies? ;)

Royal Protection for well, Royals
Close Protection for some Ministers .
DPG Protection for Government, Embassies, Scotland Yard etc
So an incident at say the Foreign Office is often first attended by the local police who provide a holding operation until an Inspector from the DPG arrives to take over the incident.
DPG Bikes, Cars and Vans are maroon in colour and it is an armed unit.

Once had an incident of an unauthorised parked car at the Attorney Generals Office which required me to seek their assistance. DPG turned up in 3 maroon vans with police armed to to teeth pouring out of them and surrounding the building. Quite dramatic.

Visit such as an American President involved having to co-ordinate with several specialist units including the FBI who always seemed to have their way of doing things and we had ours so it could get interesting.

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:42 pm
by Strangely Brown
jcochrane wrote:Visit such as an American President involved having to co-ordinate with several specialist units including the FBI who always seemed to have their way of doing things and we had ours so it could get interesting.


FBI? I thought they were US domestic only. Are you perhaps referring to the Secret Service?

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:42 pm
by jcochrane
Strangely Brown wrote:
jcochrane wrote:Visit such as an American President involved having to co-ordinate with several specialist units including the FBI who always seemed to have their way of doing things and we had ours so it could get interesting.


FBI? I thought they were US domestic only. Are you perhaps referring to the Secret Service?

FBI was what they and the US Embassy called them.

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:47 pm
by Strangely Brown
jcochrane wrote:
Strangely Brown wrote:
jcochrane wrote:Visit such as an American President involved having to co-ordinate with several specialist units including the FBI who always seemed to have their way of doing things and we had ours so it could get interesting.


FBI? I thought they were US domestic only. Are you perhaps referring to the Secret Service?

FBI was what they and the US Embassy called them.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Every day is a school day.

Re: Really good or quite bad?

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:55 am
by Horse
martine wrote:Take a look t the following video...it's presumably from some highly trained bikers (not sure which country)...it looks flippin dangerous to me...

https://fb.watch/dIoZPpg0Ie/

...what do others think (especially the few bikers we have here)?


This video explains the roles of the two riders:
1st Courier
2nd Regulator

Compared to Met SEG work, the 2nd rider is a more active version of the SEG 'Easy Rider', who decides the speed of the convoy.