Re: 'Highest'?
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:29 pm
See the bit where I listed 'congested' & '50 limits' & 'double white lines'. Good luck if you can 'make progress' under those circumstances! I'd like to know how
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Horse wrote:See the bit where I listed 'congested' & '50 limits' & 'double white lines'. Good luck if you can 'make progress' under those circumstances! I'd like to know how
Horse wrote:See the bit where I listed 'congested' & '50 limits' & 'double white lines'. Good luck if you can 'make progress' under those circumstances! I'd like to know how
Strangely Brown wrote:Horse wrote:See the bit where I listed 'congested' & '50 limits' & 'double white lines'. Good luck if you can 'make progress' under those circumstances! I'd like to know how
You can make extra progress by thinking. e.g.: A couple of weeks ago I was in very heavy traffic on the M25/M23 but, by watching far enough ahead and thinking about what was coming up, I managed to place myself in a lane was moving sufficiently more smoothly than the others. Not only was it quicker, the slow and steady was also far more relaxing than the stop/start madness.
Making progress and maintaining headway is about more than just overtaking everything in sight. It's about thinking. But then you already know that so I don't quite understand what point you're trying to make?
Horse wrote:A fair question
So perhaps it's a fair question for me to ask back how much AD training takes place in the circumstances you detail, or even equate to anything close? And, to be fair, if all those other drivers thought the same way, you would have been no quicker
My point, I suppose, is that much of the AD training content is, perhaps, irrelevant to many (if not most) current drivers.
Someone earlier mentioned getting wound up by queues, or similar. Queues are often unavoidable, so is that mental aspect something routinely covered in AD training? The nearest I can think of is recognising when there is unlikely to be an overtaking opportunity, so backing off.
Horse wrote:See the bit where I listed 'congested' & '50 limits' & 'double white lines'. Good luck if you can 'make progress' under those circumstances! I'd like to know how
Horse wrote:so is that mental aspect something routinely covered in AD training? The nearest I can think of is recognising when there is unlikely to be an overtaking opportunity, so backing off.
Gareth wrote:Horse wrote:so is that mental aspect something routinely covered in AD training? The nearest I can think of is recognising when there is unlikely to be an overtaking opportunity, so backing off.
Yes.
Horse wrote:Gareth wrote:Horse wrote:so is that mental aspect something routinely covered in AD training? The nearest I can think of is recognising when there is unlikely to be an overtaking opportunity, so backing off.
Yes.
Perhaps I should have qualified that with 'through IAM and RoSPA'. Care to give some examples? [I know Rc has a section on mental skills, but how are they covered during observed sessions?]
FWIW, there's a bike racing book about mental aspects:
https://www.amazon.com/Soft-Science-Roa ... 096504503X
crr003 wrote:The first chapter in the IAM book, "Human factors", deals with this sort of stuff. It'll depend as usual on the Observer how much effort and emphasis is applied.