Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:... and ... are you suggesting I should be permanently aware of what they have on their site?
Just noting that the BBC consider it of national interest, not local, SE, only.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:... and ... are you suggesting I should be permanently aware of what they have on their site?
angus wrote:So the court case has ended, with one lorry driver being convicted (rightly) and the other cleared (surprisingly in my opinion).
But no mention has been made of what could be the contributory negligence by the minibus driver. From the traffic camera footage, traffic was light at the time and he should have been able to easily and safely ovetake the lorry, so why did he stop behind the lorry?
akirk wrote:angus wrote:So the court case has ended, with one lorry driver being convicted (rightly) and the other cleared (surprisingly in my opinion).
But no mention has been made of what could be the contributory negligence by the minibus driver. From the traffic camera footage, traffic was light at the time and he should have been able to easily and safely ovetake the lorry, so why did he stop behind the lorry?
I think only cleared of death by dangerous driving
he has already pleaded guilty to death by careless driving
Alasdair
ancient wrote: So his driving totally unaware of what was in front of him, concentrating instead on his 'phone conversation was a standard of driving below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver ...
But not far below
angus wrote: But no mention has been made of what could be the contributory negligence by the minibus driver.
ancient wrote:So his driving totally unaware of what was in front of him, concentrating instead on his 'phone conversation was a standard of driving below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver ...
waremark wrote:...I don't expect a long hands free conversation to be any more distracting than a conversation with a passenger, notwithstanding the research on this subject....
martine wrote:There are 2 possible reasons for this (yet to be confirmed):
- voice quality is measurably worse (even on posh phones) making the brain work harder
- passengers tend to naturally pause the conversation if the driver is faced with a tricky situation
martine wrote:waremark wrote:...I don't expect a long hands free conversation to be any more distracting than a conversation with a passenger, notwithstanding the research on this subject....
Not quite sure what you're saying. The research shows it is more distracting than conversing with a passenger.
There are 2 possible reasons for this (yet to be confirmed):
- voice quality is measurably worse (even on posh phones) making the brain work harder
- passengers tend to naturally pause the conversation if the driver is faced with a tricky situation
mean, that you don't agree, or don't believe it?waremark wrote: notwithstanding the research
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