Safety systems are there to be gamed...

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Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby jont- » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:15 pm

right...?


I mean, what could possibly go wrong :roll:

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby Strangely Brown » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:24 pm

Add that to the fact the driver will, necessarily, be completely disengaged from the driving task and it's fun all round.

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby Horse » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:50 pm

I've used a lump of metal to hold down the throttle on an HGV. Does that make me a gamer?

Although it was parked off-road and I had to keep the battery charged because of equipment working. Quite boring, really :(
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby exportmanuk » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 pm

Make something idiot proof and someone will make a bigger idiot
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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby Horse » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:52 pm

exportmanuk wrote:Make something idiot proof and someone will make a bigger idiot


A mate of mine says that "It's difficult to make something idiot-proof because idiots are too ingenious"
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby TR4ffic » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:24 pm

...and lo and behold https://electrek.co/2018/01/24/tesla-autopilot-federal-scrutiny-again-model-s-crash/

"It wasn't my fault, Officer, it was on autopilot..!"

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:05 pm

And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html
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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby Horse » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:05 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html


"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby jont- » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Horse wrote:
GTR1400MAN wrote:And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html


"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!

But they can't spot a fire engine parked in their lane:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/2 ... lot_crash/

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Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 pm

Horse wrote:"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!

Mike Roberts - Now riding a Triumph Explorer XRT. My username comes from my 50K miles on a Kawasaki 1400GTR, after many years on Hondas of various shapes and styles. - https://tinyurl.com/mikerobertsonyoutube


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