Police using track & sim to train

Anything that doesn't fit elsewhere - doesn't have to be AD related.
User avatar
Horse
Posts: 1873
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:20 am

Police using track & sim to train

Postby Horse » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:51 am

https://www.gamereactor.eu/news/602353/ ... s+driving/

On the BBC news yesterday, but this gives more detail.

PlayStation has partnered with the UK's Lincolnshire Police Force in order to offer supplementary training to specialist police drivers using upcoming sim racer Gran Turismo Sport, the latest in the long-running series of racing games.

Officials from GT Academy, a racing body that has trained racers for close to a decade, coached officers using an in-game regime to see if it could help their driving ability, supplementing their training they've already received as part of their job.

This was done by registering an initial lap time at the Silverstone track before the coaching, including the new VR mode, designed to improve and showcase efficiency. Issues like oversteer and braking late were identified, and the game showcased correct techniques and best practice instead. After said training, a second lap was undertaken by the officers, with significantly improved results, shaving 14 collective seconds off of their lap times, all showing improvements in areas like safety and stability.

Laurence Wiltshire, Project Director of GT Academy, said: "GT Academy has proven that the skills learned via Gran Turismo directly transfer from the virtual track on to the real one. This is thanks to the incredibly accurate simulation of the tracks but more importantly the simulation of the cars, their physics and how they handle. GT Sport is the best in the series history and, with the addition of VR mode, offers the most realistic driving simulation yet. It's one thing to train racing drivers but the idea that a game could help officers respond to emergencies more efficiently is mind-blowing."

Shaun West, Assistant Chief Constable, Lincolnshire Police, commented: "There will never be a replacement for traditional training methods but we are always looking for innovative ways to supplement the learning of our officers and staff. If Gran Turismo can help to train world class racing drivers, then we were keen to explore whether it could offer anything to our officers and help expand the way we think about evolving and refreshing our training methods."

Of course this isn't a substitute for police training, but it's great to see the game being used to improve the driving techniques this way. GT Sport itself will be released on October 18, this Wednesday. Will you be improving your own virtual racing this year?
My own views. For better or worse :)

crr003
Posts: 473
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:32 pm

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby crr003 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Issues like oversteer and braking late were identified, and the game showcased correct techniques and best practice instead.

Looking forward to the rewrite of Roadcraft.

Away from the Playstation world........VBH enjoying herself:
https://youtu.be/39kw8CjFB7k

WARNING - video features a Vauxhall.................

User avatar
GTR1400MAN
Posts: 1267
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:23 pm

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby GTR1400MAN » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:10 pm

What is this supposed to prove? Simulators are good at learning repetitive tasks? Of course they got better, they'd never driven the track before. Race driving is all about exploring the limits, and then having another go ... you don't get another go on the road. It's not repetitive. It's different every time. A random generated road simulator would be good for learning though. I bet they'll get b*llocked if they steer like that when they are back at work (and once you start doing it, it is hard to stop).
Mike Roberts

User avatar
akirk
Posts: 1458
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:58 pm
Location: Cotswolds

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby akirk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:08 pm

I think they drove the real track - and recorded a time...
then practised on the computer
then re-drove the real track and recorded a faster time

suggesting that the simulator helped improve their drive...

of course, with the game about to come out it is clearly a marketing stunt which is not very well grounded in science, but fun never-the-less!

Alasdair

User avatar
Horse
Posts: 1873
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:20 am

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby Horse » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:19 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote: A random generated road simulator would be good for learning though.


My own views. For better or worse :)

User avatar
dvenman
Posts: 154
Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:28 am

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby dvenman » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:34 am

From that video above - 23 per cent of injuries to firefighters occur in vehicle crashes...

That's staggering. It would be interesting to understand the stats on a country by country basis and see how the top performers reduce injuries sustained just getting to an incident.

And in none of that video was "looking out the window and planning" mentioned.

User avatar
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
Posts: 1057
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:01 pm
Location: Swindon

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:11 am

I loved the quote at the beginning - "we don't train driving to and from the fire scene". QED, methinks.
Nick

User avatar
Horse
Posts: 1873
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:20 am

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby Horse » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:04 pm

crr003 wrote:
Issues like oversteer and braking late were identified

Looking forward to the rewrite of Roadcraft.


Why? Does Rc currently recommend oversteer and late braking? :shock:
My own views. For better or worse :)

crr003
Posts: 473
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:32 pm

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby crr003 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:45 pm

Horse wrote:
crr003 wrote:
Issues like oversteer and braking late were identified

Looking forward to the rewrite of Roadcraft.


Why? Does Rc currently recommend oversteer and late braking? :shock:

Oh - I thought they wanted them added in..........

When VBH versus Plod came up originally, Vonhosen suggested the test should have been going round the track the other way. The racer wouldn't have the track knowledge/braking references and it would have been a more level playing field.

User avatar
Horse
Posts: 1873
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:20 am

Re: Police using track & sim to train

Postby Horse » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:57 pm

crr003 wrote: When VBH versus Plod came up originally, Vonhosen suggested the test should have been going round the track the other way. The racer wouldn't have the track knowledge/braking references and it would have been a more level playing field.


In this instance, I was going to wonder if 'all' the sim supplied was an easily-repeatable method for carrying out the training. Indeed, it's possible (and can happen and should be allowed for in research) that people learn and improve simply by repeating the 'test'.

However, it sems to suggest that, instead of 'racing driver Vs police driver', perhaps the software itself identified shortcomings and the staff interpreted and coached:
the new VR mode, designed to improve and showcase efficiency. Issues like oversteer and braking late were identified, and the game showcased correct techniques and best practice instead.

If that's the case, then the actual 'track' layout might be irrelevant, excepting that for 'road' training then the issues of blind bends, 'surprise horizon', etc. would need to be incorporated.
My own views. For better or worse :)


Return to “General Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest