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Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:38 pm
by GTR1400MAN
Pyrolol wrote:The more rules we try and program in, the less good the system tends to be. Expert systems with human programmed rules have largely died out as inferior to ai that decides its own rules; usually in a manner incomprehensible to humans.

Hmmm.

Microsoft AI Chatbot turned off.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:11 pm
by Horse
As mentioned, MIT are doing a huge amount of research, eg:

https://toyota.csail.mit.edu/node/12

Google / YouTube for more.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:36 pm
by mainbeam
I'm not sure of the benefit of raising an advanced driving/riding qualification to assist one's case. Better to convince than impress.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:58 am
by Strangely Brown
Using an "advanced qualification" to support your case is just argumentum ad verecundiam. As pointed out, the argument should stand or fall on its merit.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:40 am
by Silk
Strangely Brown wrote:Using an "advanced qualification" to support your case is just appeal to reverence. As pointed out, the argument should stand or fall on its merit.


Above edited to remove unnecessary pretentiousness. :D

P.S. It still doesn't make any sense.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:17 am
by Strangely Brown
What doesn't make any sense?

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:11 am
by Horse
Does it mean that if you've ended up in court then it's admitting to having earned a 'failed with distinction' certificate? ;)

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:55 pm
by Silk
Strangely Brown wrote:What doesn't make any sense?


I'm usually very suspicious of people who use Latin. I was simply pointing out that even its direct translation is meaningless nonsense.

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:11 pm
by Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
It's the equivalent of "because I'm your Dad, and I say so" :D

Re: 'Advanced' - a solicitor writes

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:26 pm
by Strangely Brown
Silk wrote:
Strangely Brown wrote:What doesn't make any sense?


I'm usually very suspicious of people who use Latin. I was simply pointing out that even its direct translation is meaningless nonsense.


Well, the direct translation is inaccurate so that probably doesn't help. Try reading up on "argument from authority" or "appeal to authority".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

The point is that using an advanced driving qualification (e.g. IAM test pass) to support an argument when it is arguably not a qualification and certainly not authoritative is a bit silly. If the argument cannot stand without the fallacy then it is weak and will fall.

As mainbeam said: "'Better to convince than impress."