Clarity of Purpose

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MrToad
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Re: Clarity of Purpose

Postby MrToad » Fri May 11, 2018 9:13 pm

Gareth wrote:
MrToad wrote:Other road users are overly engaged with, rather than effectively dispatched.

This part feels a little awkward as effective dispatch sometimes isn't far away from a brusque attitude towards other road users. On the other hand I like a certain directness in the manner by which a driver negotiates fixed and mobile hazards.


Fair point - should have said 'dispassionately and swiftly dealt with'. Part of what I'm thinking about is finding the line between prioritising potentially selfish goals, and being a team player with other road users.

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Re: Clarity of Purpose

Postby jcochrane » Fri May 11, 2018 9:37 pm

Horse wrote:“Suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was kind of driving by instinct, only I was in a different dimension. I was way over the limit; but still I was able to find even more. It frightened me, because I realised I was well beyond my conscious understanding.”
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Sounds like it was his first experience which can be very scary, that feeling of letting go and feeling you’re out of control. Having met Senna a few times I am not in the slightest surprised that he found it so uncomfortable and reacted as he did.

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Re: Clarity of Purpose

Postby MrToad » Fri May 11, 2018 9:37 pm

I think being 'in the zone' (AKA 'flow' - Wikipedia link) is a slightly different thing, although it's a fascinating and desirable state to be able to achieve.

I'd like to know more about the Senna thing though - you'd think he'd have been looking to attain and maintain that kind of state as much as possible. The Wikipedia article contains this version:

Senna wrote:"I was already on pole, [...] and I just kept going. Suddenly I was nearly two seconds faster than anybody else, including my team mate with the same car. And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. It was like I was in a tunnel."

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Re: Clarity of Purpose

Postby Horse » Fri May 11, 2018 10:24 pm

I heard about it several years ago and found that quote from a very quick Google. There's probably more detail elsewhere. The way I heard it, he didn't feel in control, or that it was sustainable, so stopped.

But back to the theme, there's probably two aspects: distraction, ie how much attention is the driver consciously giving (or avoiding) the driving task, and what the driver considers acceptable - they may be fully aware of what could and should be done . . . but just CBA. Of course, there will be other drivers who, sadly, don't have a clue as to what can easily be achieved.

Does that make sense?
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