Clutch - heel & toe

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Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Horse » Fri May 04, 2018 1:29 pm

Recently, I read the ex-Stig's 'How to Drive' book.

One of the things he suggests is to pivot your left foot on the heel when changing gear. I can't do this, I have to lift my foot off the floor if it releasing the clutch is to be anywhere near smooth. Any thoughts?


It was a surprisingly good book too.
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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby akirk » Fri May 04, 2018 1:55 pm

I have got the book, so will have to have a look...
surely it must depend on the car and how the pedals are set?

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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Horse » Fri May 04, 2018 4:56 pm

Certainly for my pedal / foot combo, I can't pivot from the ankle while maintaining heel contact with the floor. If I try, the sole contact patch slides on the pedal. It's an Ibiza, so nothing out of the ordinary.
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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby kfae8959 » Fri May 04, 2018 10:55 pm

Is he driving a TVR?

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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby GTR1400MAN » Sat May 05, 2018 7:32 am

I've never had a car where I could do that. Perhaps he has big long feet.
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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby sussex2 » Sat May 05, 2018 7:39 am

I wear size 46 size shoes (UK 11) and my feet are wide so most cars are awkward and there always seems to be something to catch my feet on - a bit of the steering column on the MX5; our Citroen Berlingo van however seems better built for shoes more like boats :)

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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Sat May 05, 2018 7:34 pm

I've never been able to do this. In classic 911s, it'd be a real advantage, but my ankles aren't supple enough.

I'm afraid I sent Ben's book straight to the nearest Oxfam shop as soon as I'd waded through it. If it hadn't been so big and glossy I'd probably have done so earlier.
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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Horse » Sat May 05, 2018 9:01 pm

Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I'm afraid I sent Ben's book straight to the nearest Oxfam shop as soon as I'd waded through it. If it hadn't been so big and glossy I'd probably have done so earlier.


I read it, then returned it to its rightful owner. I enjoyed it, in the context of knowing what he was writing about - but TBH don't think anyone would learn anything from it 'from scratch'.
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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Pontoneer » Sun May 06, 2018 4:32 pm

I think it very much depends on the car .

With cars where the pedals come up out of the floor ( examples I’ve had include VW Beetles and my Ponton Mercedes ) it would probably be quite comfortable since the pedal would follow the ball of your foot when pivoted that way .

Since the majority of cars these days have pedals which are suspended from above and pivot in an arc which goes the other way , with these it would probably be quite awkward.

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Re: Clutch - heel & toe

Postby Horse » Sun May 06, 2018 7:18 pm

Our 'family' car has a pivot-from-the-floor throttle. Before driving it, I would have expected it to be ergonomically superior, but actually I find a top hung pedal to be more comfortable.
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