chloejr31's survey.

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby jont- » Sat May 13, 2017 11:37 am

Gareth wrote:
Horse wrote:Unless you have taken additional action, you're several seconds closer and nothing else has changed.

I think this is the issue; a horn warning is short-range.

Depends how loud your horn is :twisted:

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby GTR1400MAN » Sat May 13, 2017 12:10 pm

jont- wrote:Depends how loud your horn is :twisted:

Several of my mates have these. Stebel Nautilus also sold as a copy called an Air Bomb.

Personally I think they are too loud. People don't expect that sound from a motorbike and react looking for a car/lorry. You also loose the ability to do a friendly 'toot' warning with a cheery wave, which is often all that's needed. Having said that the horns fitted to most production motorcycles are feeble, including mine, and I'm on the search for something improved but not extreme.

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby Horse » Sat May 13, 2017 4:48 pm

Older BMWs had a pair of horns. Not just louder - without being awful - but the twin tones worked better too as an attention-getter. Fiamms, possibly?

My old Vauxhall Astra (02 reg) had a good horn. A mate found one for me during one of his scrapyard surfing expeditions. One day I might get around to fitting it on the bike. . . .

IIRC there's a two-stage switching arrangement available in the USA which initially sounds a toot horn then with a continued press sounds a LOUD horn.
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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby Gareth » Sat May 13, 2017 5:03 pm

Horse wrote:IIRC there's a two-stage switching arrangement available in the USA which initially sounds a toot horn then with a continued press sounds a LOUD horn.

Many years ago, when I had a car with a feeble horn, it was suggested that an air-horn wired in parallel would work well since a quick toot wouldn't be long enough for the air-horn to sound.
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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby Horse » Sat May 13, 2017 5:05 pm

https://www.james-sherlock.co.uk/shop/r ... rns-detail

Mount them with the trumpets facing forward (no point in starting with it muffled) and down (so they don't fill with rain). Relay needed to protect the wiring and switch.
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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby Jonquirk » Sat May 13, 2017 5:23 pm

My colleague has fitted one of these to his Audi S3:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/150DB-Super-Single-Trumpet-Compressor/dp/B00UHB7LG8

He reports that it is very effective at waking up dozy drivers!

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby GTR1400MAN » Sat May 13, 2017 5:45 pm

A pair of Fiamm style twin tone snail horns will be my likely solution.

Gareth wrote:... it was suggested that an air-horn wired in parallel would work well since a quick toot wouldn't be long enough for the air-horn to sound.

This sounds (sic) an interesting project that gives that functionality.



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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby Strangely Brown » Sat May 13, 2017 5:50 pm

Have you considered using a thunderer pea whistle (or modern equivalent) like the SEG? It can't be that hard to rig something up and it seems to work pretty well for them.

http://www.nc700.co.uk/index.php?/topic/13082-better-horn/

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby fungus » Sat May 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Strangely Brown wrote:Have you considered using a thunderer pea whistle (or modern equivalent) like the SEG? It can't be that hard to rig something up and it seems to work pretty well for them.

http://www.nc700.co.uk/index.php?/topic/13082-better-horn/


The thunderer pea whistle is very effective at stopping the daughters German Wirehaired Pointer in his tracks when he decides he's having a bout of selective hearing. :lol:

Seriously though I would imagine such a whistle would be quite effective. Don't the Met escort riders use whistles?

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Re: chloejr31's survey.

Postby RiK » Sun May 14, 2017 11:25 am

Strangely Brown wrote:Have you considered using a thunderer pea whistle (or modern equivalent) like the SEG?


Absolutely. They're brilliant.

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