Fixed Grip Steering

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Fixed Grip Steering

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:41 pm

This video popped up on Facebook today. Well worth a watch. My comment below.



Fixed grip steering. Enjoy one of the rally masters from the past. Interesting to see that even he runs out of steering occasionally (at the extremes he is driving at). Watch the modern rally cars and that doesn't happen as they have much quicker racks?. They can lock to lock without letting go. (Watch for the person walking their dog on the track on the right part way up!)
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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby gannet » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:37 pm

enjoyed that thanks :)

as an aside do we have to insist on using Adobe Flash?

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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:26 pm

gannet wrote:as an aside do we have to insist on using Adobe Flash?

The forum software currently forces Flash Player, but if you can click through to native YouTube for the HTML5 player.

Alasdair, not sure if there's a mod upgrade available or an alternative one that uses HTML5, and handles widescreen better. It is currently generating an object tag, it needs to generate this:

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UEuZG37gFdM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby waremark » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:47 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:This video popped up on Facebook today. Well worth a watch. My comment below.

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Fixed grip steering. Enjoy one of the rally masters from the past. Interesting to see that even he runs out of steering occasionally (at the extremes he is driving at). Watch the modern rally cars and that doesn't happen as they have much quicker racks?. They can lock to lock without letting go. (Watch for the person walking their dog on the track on the right part way up!)

And they tell us to steer smoothly! That seems pretty effective.

Much more fun to watch than the faster run by Sebastiean Loeb after the hill had a tarmac surface. The steering technique is the same, except that Loeb has his hands slightly lower on the wheel. Note that the Loeb car has shift paddles which rotate with the wheel, unlike the Italian supercars which have paddles fixed on the steering column.


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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:54 pm

The paddles in my Renaultsport Clio are fixed. I thought it might be an issue, but have not found it so (still more to hand than with a conventional gear stick).

Note how he still runs out of lock with his hands crossed. Solved by letting go with one hand!
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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby gannet » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:10 pm

tarmac takes so much enjoyment away!

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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby Jonquirk » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:33 pm

I noticed that at one point he had both hands on the same side of the wheel similar to the technique in daily use that I call "pawing the wheel".

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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby akirk » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:40 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:
gannet wrote:as an aside do we have to insist on using Adobe Flash?

The forum software currently forces Flash Player, but if you can click through to native YouTube for the HTML5 player.

Alasdair, not sure if there's a mod upgrade available or an alternative one that uses HTML5, and handles widescreen better. It is currently generating an object tag, it needs to generate this:

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UEuZG37gFdM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Is this on a PC?
this is not the forum software... regardless of what we use for the bbcode, youtube should embed correctly...
If you load this thread on an iphone (which will not do flash) there is no issue seeing the videos
when you embed from youtube, youtube chooses whether to deliver in html5 / flash - and does so based on reading your specific computer / browser - in theory they are meant to default to html5, but don't always...

however I have updated the bbcode, so maybe this will help?

you can set your preference here: https://www.youtube.com/html5

if you are bored, this might be interesting to read: http://www.dailytech.com/Tutorial+Heres ... e37383.htm

but the forum software is agnostic and should have nothing to do with the player being used - that is completely controlled by Youtube

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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby GTR1400MAN » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:59 pm

Whatever you have changed has fixed it (what did you change out of interest, to me, if not everybody else :) ). It's even in 16:9 ratio now. This is Chrome on Windows 7 by the way.

If you look on the phpBB forum you'll see that if your BB code wasn't generating exactly the same format iframe code I posted, then YouTube was falling back to Flash on many PCs. Hence Gannet's original query and my dig down in the chrome developer's Tools.

PS. All the YouTube on this forum on my PC have been Flash since I joined. The reason any of your Apple kit wouldn't have seen this issue is that YouTube would sniff the headers first and not even consider serving Flash for iPhones.
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Re: Fixed Grip Steering

Postby akirk » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:55 pm

interesting - I think the issue was on some browsers, not all - so certainly inconsistencies with how youtube handled it - in theory a personal preference using the link I showed above should default to html5 - you can also set your browser to default - so for me, no issues, html5 all the way :) but then I suspect my computers are not totally standard! In theory youtube now starts with html5 and if that is not viable falls back to flash - so I suspect there may be an issue with how they are doing that...

I simply changed the code to yours (with a slight tweak to bring in the BBcode variables - so that it is a blunter command to youtube...

but thank you for bringing it to my attention... :)

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