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Re: Just curious

Postby Strangely Brown » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:27 pm

mainbeam wrote:If Porsche or the like offers free driving instruction to purchasers of their cars - and only purchasers of their cars - who hold a full licence and in order to assist them in driving a high-performance car is that paid-for instruction that requires the giver of the instruction to be registered notwithstanding that the lessons are free to recipient?


Apparently, yes. There was a similar case where Land Rover were giving off-road tuition to purchasers of their vehicles. When asked, DVSA said that those providing the tuition had to be on the ADI register.

In your example, the tuition is not free to the recipient; it is included in the cost of the car. They may not be paying specifically for the tuition but since it would not be available to them had they not purchased a car, they are paying for it.

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Re: Just curious

Postby mainbeam » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:38 am

... and if Fiat offer free instruction to learner drivers if - and only if - they purchase a Fiat 500?

The legislation specifically requires registration in that case.


(3) For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2) above, instruction is paid instruction if payment of money or money's worth is, or is to be, made by or in respect of the person to whom the instruction is given for the giving of the instruction and for the purposes of this subsection instruction which is given—


(a) free of charge to a person who is not the holder of a current licence to drive a motor vehicle granted under Part III of this Act (other than a provisional licence),


(b) by, or in pursuance of arrangements made by, a person carrying on business in the supply of motor cars, and


(c) in connection with the supply of a motor car in the course of that business,

shall be deemed to be given for payment of money by the person to whom the instruction is given.



...which raises the question, if all instruction of this type requires registration why does sub-section 3 refer to learner drivers only?

There is case law to support the need for instructors who are paid to instruct to be registered regardless of the licence held by the person being instructed.

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Re: Just curious

Postby hir » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:29 am

mainbeam wrote:If Porsche or the like offers free driving instruction to purchasers of their cars - and only purchasers of their cars - who hold a full licence and in order to assist them in driving a high-performance car is that paid-for instruction that requires the giver of the instruction to be registered notwithstanding that the lessons are free to recipient?


All the instructors at the Porsche Experience Centre where Porsche buyers receive their instruction are indeed ADIs.


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