Braking

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Re: Braking

Postby akirk » Thu May 26, 2016 3:07 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:I sure nobody here uses the 'Number 2s' :o


they do :D

another good one I have heard is a lemon shape...

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Re: Braking

Postby dvenman » Thu May 26, 2016 3:14 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:I sure nobody here uses the 'Number 2s' :o


Reminds me of a joke...not for here, though :soap:

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Re: Braking

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Thu May 26, 2016 4:22 pm

akirk wrote:
GTR1400MAN wrote:I sure nobody here uses the 'Number 2s' :o


they do :D

another good one I have heard is a lemon shape...

Alasdair

... or a rugby ball ...
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Re: Braking

Postby Rolyan » Thu May 26, 2016 6:23 pm

Astraist wrote:I am in the opinion that phrasing does matter.

.... from the sound of it - it does give (say, to a third-party reader) an idea that is wholly not conductive to the purpose of smooth braking.

I may have inadvertently misled you. I wasn't suggesting that phrasing doesn't matter. We're ALL of the opinion that phrasing matters. But I was under the impression that you objected to the specific 3 phase braking.

Clearly not, and I certainly accept the point that to a third party reader, that is not part of the discussion, a poor analogy may give the wrong impression, so care must be taken to avoid this.

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Re: Braking

Postby Imsensible » Thu May 26, 2016 9:02 pm

Braking: do enough of it to avoid hitting anything. Sorted. :D

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Re: Braking

Postby gannet » Thu May 26, 2016 9:04 pm

Imsensible wrote:Braking: do enough of it to avoid hitting anything. Sorted. :D

TESLA needs to learn that lesson...

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Re: Braking

Postby Imsensible » Thu May 26, 2016 10:13 pm

And Google too it seems. Who told any of them it was a good idea to design them in the first place? There are better things to invest in in terms of personal transport. Hopefully, just a passing phase.

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Re: Braking

Postby Astraist » Fri May 27, 2016 8:06 am

GTR1400MAN wrote:Astraist, what analogies do you use?


Mainly, I move people into thinking of starting to apply the brakes, throttle and steering and eventually starting to back off of them somewhere down the line. I also use that way of thinking to maneuvering: You start a maneuver rather than doing it instantanously.

I try to refrain from deliberate "hinting" of the controls (small step input - big step input) but sometimes you do need to get the steering or the brakes on quicker than you would have liked, and in that case such a "gentle-firm" approach does help with smoothness.

Anyhow, nowadays I focus less and less on braking as a car control, and more to braking as a means to attempt and control the behavior of following drivers. Done right (and it's about timing) and you can create a "cover" for yourself from being shunted. So in a sense I subscribe to:

Imsensible wrote:Braking: do enough of it to avoid hitting anything. Sorted. :D


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