Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:04 am
Gareth
Forgive me, rather than dissect out snippets of text I shall just reply to your post towards me.
Actually, in the book John Lyon advocates cancelling the (intention to overtake) indicator when overtaking on a multilane carriageway before the wheels cross the lane division line system. Ergo, activate indicator four seconds before lane change and cancel indicator before right side wheels of your vehicle touch the line system… then proceed to move into lane to carry out the overtake.
The inference from your post, whilst on a single carriageway, suggests you have a propensity to cancelling an indicator before moving to the off side. You state your indicator conveys your ‘intention’ to overtake whilst on your side of the road. Indeed, this is the dialogue used in my oldish copy of the Highway Code. Perhaps you could convey what you believe you are communicating when you cancel your indicator prior to moving to the offside? It is my belief that having transitioned to the offside, I am still ‘intending’ to overtake and accordingly my indicator should be activated signalling and telegraphing as such. Only until I am safely alongside or passed the vehicle, does the status of intention change to that of overtaking - in other words the intention has been realised into a satisfactory action or manoeuvre and the indicator can now be cancelled.
As is the case with police forces, interpretation of how something should be performed from region to region in advanced driving and riding clubs differs. A very small percentage of drivers and riders on the UK roads are advanced trained. And, a minute percentage have ever done a High Performance driving course. For context, John Lyon was involved with the BSM HPC. I put it to you that the average motorist might find it confusing to witness your procedure for using an indicator when intending to overtake. The UK has a Highway Code and I would wager most driving schools do not advocate cancelling an indicator before moving to the offside intending to overtake. Please refer to the link.
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/using-t ... aking.html
If my intention to overtake was scuppered by a previously unseen feature or whatever or, a sudden change in circumstances, I would do what most other drivers would do… cancel my indicator and return to my side of the road.
Forgive me, rather than dissect out snippets of text I shall just reply to your post towards me.
Actually, in the book John Lyon advocates cancelling the (intention to overtake) indicator when overtaking on a multilane carriageway before the wheels cross the lane division line system. Ergo, activate indicator four seconds before lane change and cancel indicator before right side wheels of your vehicle touch the line system… then proceed to move into lane to carry out the overtake.
The inference from your post, whilst on a single carriageway, suggests you have a propensity to cancelling an indicator before moving to the off side. You state your indicator conveys your ‘intention’ to overtake whilst on your side of the road. Indeed, this is the dialogue used in my oldish copy of the Highway Code. Perhaps you could convey what you believe you are communicating when you cancel your indicator prior to moving to the offside? It is my belief that having transitioned to the offside, I am still ‘intending’ to overtake and accordingly my indicator should be activated signalling and telegraphing as such. Only until I am safely alongside or passed the vehicle, does the status of intention change to that of overtaking - in other words the intention has been realised into a satisfactory action or manoeuvre and the indicator can now be cancelled.
As is the case with police forces, interpretation of how something should be performed from region to region in advanced driving and riding clubs differs. A very small percentage of drivers and riders on the UK roads are advanced trained. And, a minute percentage have ever done a High Performance driving course. For context, John Lyon was involved with the BSM HPC. I put it to you that the average motorist might find it confusing to witness your procedure for using an indicator when intending to overtake. The UK has a Highway Code and I would wager most driving schools do not advocate cancelling an indicator before moving to the offside intending to overtake. Please refer to the link.
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/using-t ... aking.html
If my intention to overtake was scuppered by a previously unseen feature or whatever or, a sudden change in circumstances, I would do what most other drivers would do… cancel my indicator and return to my side of the road.