A central point for Advanced Driving
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GTR1400MAN wrote:You always have the option to abort if the situation changes.
I think the definition of "commitment" is poorly understood, and contains the key to understanding the strength of the triangle overtake.
Definition: You are committed to the overtake at the point where - should the vehicle in front apply maximum braking - you are unable to stop behind it.
GTR1400MAN wrote:Here I've committed (decided to go) to overtake the lorry from my offside position well behind it but the information changes and I abort. That's what I meant.
From the first referenced thread:I think of the two things that we are talking about, one is "becoming committed" and the other is "deciding to become committed". Simply because you might successfully abort and pull back in behind the target many times, does not mean that you have full control of whether that is possible every time. You only have full control if you are able to stop in the distance which you can see to be clear. If you can't see that the distance offside past the target vehicle is clear then you can't use it to stop in. Once you can see that it is clear, then you can safely commit to it.
Furthermore, I think that "becoming committed" before "deciding to become committed" is the wrong way round to do it.
dvenman wrote:I don't think you'd committed then - you were still hanging back and decided not to go for it when you saw the sign.
For me, committal is the moment I start the process of passing knowing I'll be able to complete safely.
Strangely Brown wrote:Mike, the firing a gun analogy undermines your argument. There is no backing out of pulling a trigger.
So, for me committing to the overtake is when I add significant acceleration to pass the target.