2017 Changes

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akirk
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Re: 2017 Changes

Postby akirk » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:29 am

my philosophy on slip roads is simply that it is my job to take responsibility for the coming together of cars - whether I am on the slip road or the main road - so creating space / adjusting my speed / etc. as dvenman says, there tends to be a very blinkered / focused thought in the mind of most people joining a main road, though the implementation of it can differ - anticipating the cars who will bumble on regardless - possibly forcing a lorry out into the next lane v. the racing driver who sees the straight line across into the outside lane regardless of what is there - need to adapt for each of them...
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Re: 2017 Changes

Postby TheInsanity1234 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:32 pm

fungus wrote:
TheInsanity1234 wrote:... My technique (instilled in me from Pass Plus), is at the top of the slip road, floor it up to 60/65odd...


Only 65? :lol:

Nigel.

Well, I don't want to be going too fast and ending up in the back of a lorry ;)

dvenman wrote:
TheInsanity1234 wrote:My technique (instilled in me from Pass Plus), is at the top of the slip road, floor it up to 60/65odd, while taking the furthest right position possible, with my right indicator going


Physiologically speaking, it seems to make easier for someone already on the main carriage to notice you if you start indicating just after the point they should be able to see you - that is not at the start of the slip road, but some way down it when you become visible to them.

Unfortunately a lot of drivers don't seem to realise that a) a junction with a slip road off most likely has a slip road on, and b) that a car coming down a slip road in the direction of the main carriageway only has one real thought in mind.

Quite, and I did say that to him, but he said that flicking the indicator on at the top means it's out of the way and you can get on with just figuring out how to merge into traffic, as opposed to giving you another thing to think about when you're closer to the most hazardous bit of the whole sliproad. However, he went on to say that it's only something you need when the traffic is heavy on the motorway. When it's quiet, don't bother, the liklihood is, nobody will be around to gain any benefit from said indication.

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Re: 2017 Changes

Postby angus » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:32 am

TheInsanity1234 wrote:The other kind of motorist I've seen on sliproads are the ones who join it at the top, very sedately speed up, with no regard to the traffic on the carriageway, and then suddenly panic when they realise they're 'running out of road' as it were, and they're alongside a lorry, with another one very close behind.


Or, as happened to me on Friday when driving our horsebox (7.5 tonne, limited to 56), joins immediately in front doing less than 50 and doesn't accelerate, despite headlights (which were already on) and horn

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Re: 2017 Changes

Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:26 pm

TheInsanity1234 wrote:Quite, and I did say that to him, but he said that flicking the indicator on at the top means it's out of the way and you can get on with just figuring out how to merge into traffic, as opposed to giving you another thing to think about when you're closer to the most hazardous bit of the whole sliproad. However, he went on to say that it's only something you need when the traffic is heavy on the motorway. When it's quiet, don't bother, the liklihood is, nobody will be around to gain any benefit from said indication.

... but now you're an "experienced" driver, you should be able to concentrate on more than one thing at a time, and give the signal when it's appropriate, rather than relying on that lowest common denominator method.

  • Nobody about - no need to signal at all
  • Traffic following you down the slip road - signal to them if you change lanes within the slip
  • Traffic on the main carriageway - signal to them when appropriate, that you're joining. The act of turning the signal on is more significant than just bombing down the slip road with it going permanently. It draws attention.
Another note on joining - I think I've posted this before, but it's much easier to choose a vehicle to merge behind, than trying to judge the right speed to join in front. That leads to acceleration into a closing gap (the ever narrowing slip road).
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Re: 2017 Changes

Postby sussex2 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:36 pm

akirk wrote:my philosophy on slip roads is simply that it is my job to take responsibility for the coming together of cars - whether I am on the slip road or the main road - so creating space / adjusting my speed / etc. as dvenman says, there tends to be a very blinkered / focused thought in the mind of most people joining a main road, though the implementation of it can differ - anticipating the cars who will bumble on regardless - possibly forcing a lorry out into the next lane v. the racing driver who sees the straight line across into the outside lane regardless of what is there - need to adapt for each of them...
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Adapt! the key word.


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