Re: Doing them a dis-service
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 12:05 pm
Ah, right. Of course revs are different, but the sequence of controls is the same. Reading too deeply.
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Gareth wrote:GTR1400MAN wrote:I pull away the same whether on the flat or hill. Am I missing a trick?
It's easy for something to get so ingrained that you stop noticing small differences. Generally, to pull away up-hill, the engine speed needs to be raised slightly more before beginning to engage the clutch, although it rather depends on the amount of torque at or just above idle.
jont- wrote:ChristianAB wrote:Here we go again...
Quite. What about ABS, Hill hold assist, electric handbrakes, synchromesh gearboxes etc etc etc
Fungus, I'm guessing you're not still running a 1950s car with a crash gearbox to train your pupils....
sussex2 wrote:TheInsanity1234 wrote:What on earth is clutch assist?
I've no idea but it is generally accepted that diesel cars are much more forgiving at low speed.
GTR1400MAN wrote:sussex2 wrote:It appears, to me, that they are trying to do hill starts on the flat; something that irked me something rotten when I was teaching ab initio.
The problem lay in that the pupil would attempt this method of starting off irrespective of the slope, including downhill.
Huh? Hill start on the flat. Care to explain further.
I pull away the same whether on the flat or hill. Am I missing a trick?
sussex2 wrote:GTR1400MAN wrote:sussex2 wrote:It appears, to me, that they are trying to do hill starts on the flat; something that irked me something rotten when I was teaching ab initio.
The problem lay in that the pupil would attempt this method of starting off irrespective of the slope, including downhill.
Huh? Hill start on the flat. Care to explain further.
I pull away the same whether on the flat or hill. Am I missing a trick?
It was that the pupil would pretty much always perform a hill start irrespective of the slope - even if downhill; clutch up to biting point then release handbrake.
Jonquirk wrote:I think the point that Sussex2 is making is that his pupils are using the same technique for moving off which would result in the car lunging forward if used on the level or downhill. When making a hill start you bring the clutch up to the biting point until you see the nose of the car lift slightly then release the handbrake while feeding in more gas. An experienced driver will not have to bring the clutch so far into the biting point or feed in so much gas before releasing the handbrake when starting on the level, giving a smoother, quieter getaway.