Doing them a dis-service

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Jonquirk
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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby Jonquirk » Mon May 30, 2016 8:11 am

It's why nearby Worthing, which is quite flat, is known as Costa Geriatrica while Brighton has a younger, more dynamic populace.

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby sussex2 » Mon May 30, 2016 1:13 pm

TheInsanity1234 wrote:Brighton, the home to San Francisco-equse hills.


HIlls that can be travelled up and down in all sorts of fashions:

https://vimeo.com/17406812

It is Brighton after all :D

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby TheInsanity1234 » Mon May 30, 2016 7:53 pm

I do love Brighton. It's hard not to, I lived there for about 4 years while I was at a boarding school which was based in Brighton.

I certainly don't miss walking up and down the hills though!

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby fungus » Mon May 30, 2016 8:46 pm

This is a good one for hill starts.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.73239 ... 312!8i6656

The streetview doesn;t do it justice.

Nigel.

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby Silk » Mon May 30, 2016 9:20 pm

TheInsanity1234 wrote:I do love Brighton.


I kind of knew that already. :lol:

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby xpc316e » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:25 am

I am not an ADI, but it seems that many learners are taught in diesels where they are actively encouraged to pull away from rest without raising the revs above tickover. I have owned many diesels in which this was easy to do, but I was told that a failure to introduce a few revs leads to a premature failure of modern dual-mass flywheels. Having had to replace one, I know how expensive they are.

Surely, learners ought to be able to drive any vehicle, whether it is petrol, diesel, manual, or automatic, without much of an issue.

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby akirk » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:04 pm

xpc316e wrote:Surely, learners ought to be able to drive any vehicle, whether it is petrol, diesel, manual, or automatic, without much of an issue.


modern driving / tests are about car control (i.e. steering /position on the road etc.) not actually about driving...

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Re: Doing them a dis-service

Postby fungus » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:40 pm

akirk wrote:
xpc316e wrote:Surely, learners ought to be able to drive any vehicle, whether it is petrol, diesel, manual, or automatic, without much of an issue.


modern driving / tests are about car control (i.e. steering /position on the road etc.) not actually about driving...

Alasdair


Sorry Alisdair, that's not strictly correct. Whilst car control is assessed, a bit of mild jerkiness with the clutch is not going to be such an issue as the candidates interaction with other road users.

Allowing a learner to move off without raising the revs is poor teaching. Creeping on the clutch without gas to improve clutch control is something I do even on hills, but it must be emphasised that the revs must be raised above idle speed when moving off.

Nigel.


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