Re: Cast your mind back ... ADIs ... Hazard Perception Test
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:21 pm
Looking back I wonder, given some of the raw material, how on earth we taught changing gear/hill starts etc let alone some of the finer points.
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crr003 wrote:The secret is understanding the word "developing" hazard rather than "possible" hazard.
Gareth wrote:crr003 wrote:The secret is understanding the word "developing" hazard rather than "possible" hazard.
It's a bit late when the hazard is in play, which really does suggest the test isn't all that useful in a practical sense, for training drivers to be observant and to be able to assess and prepare for potential hazards.
jcochrane wrote:Gareth wrote:crr003 wrote:The secret is understanding the word "developing" hazard rather than "possible" hazard.
It's a bit late when the hazard is in play, which really does suggest the test isn't all that useful in a practical sense, for training drivers to be observant and to be able to assess and prepare for potential hazards.
Completely agree Gareth.
jcochrane wrote:It puts into question as to who is responsible for the decision to base it on a "developing" hazard.
Gareth wrote:crr003 wrote:The secret is understanding the word "developing" hazard rather than "possible" hazard.
It's a bit late when the hazard is in play, which really does suggest the test isn't all that useful in a practical sense, for training drivers to be observant and to be able to assess and prepare for potential hazards.
crr003 wrote:But you have to know the hazard is there to know when it's developing?
crr003 wrote:"... A developing hazard is something that would cause you to take action, like changing speed or direction."
Gareth wrote:crr003 wrote:But you have to know the hazard is there to know when it's developing?
I guess, but ...crr003 wrote:"... A developing hazard is something that would cause you to take action, like changing speed or direction."
I think we might be taking action before that point, to allow more space and time if it starts to develop.
For experienced drivers, I think after training to include mitigations against potential hazards, it's difficult to merely respond to developing hazards.
Edited to add: could it that inexperienced drivers don't have enough experience to be proactive so the best that can be managed is to train them in being earlier reactive?
crr003 wrote:The HPT for experienced drivers has always been contentious. When I took my ADI Part 1 (theory/HPT) if I might just be allowed to mention I got 100/100 on the questions, but only 59/75 on HPT (pass at 57).
Obviously the algorithm is flawed!