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Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:25 pm
by Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:42 pm
by waremark
Living in commuter land, it is often the wives of our prosperous commuter friends who choose and buy the expensive cars. If my wife was the lead car purchaser in our family (she isnt) she would be much more sparing on the options than I am. She would certainly do her best to get a goid deal.
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:36 am
by sussex2
Horse wrote:sussex2 wrote:I seem to remember reading somewhere that some signs in the UK are not understood by these systems.
Catching up - or lagging - with human drivers, then . . .
I read an article some time back which largely related to speed limit signs; how they cannot be understood by these systems was I believe something to do with the coating or dressing on them.
It was many moons ago I accepted that not all signs will be seen by humans
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:54 am
by GTR1400MAN
sussex2 wrote:I read an article some time back which largely related to speed limit signs; how they cannot be understood by these systems was I believe something to do with the coating or dressing on them.
Algae?
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:20 pm
by Horse
sussex2 wrote:Horse wrote:sussex2 wrote:I seem to remember reading somewhere that some signs in the UK are not understood by these systems.
Catching up - or lagging - with human drivers, then . . .
I read an article some time back which largely related to speed limit signs; how they cannot be understood by these systems was I believe something to do with the coating or dressing on them.
It was many moons ago I accepted that not all signs will be seen by humans
If they're set up to read perfect upright signs, then they may well struggle (and this is total speculation, I have no knowledge) with, as said, algae, or faded colours, or obscured by vegetation, or any with an anti-condesation film, or condensation, on a sign that's falling over. If they're set up to read 'engineering' grade retro reflective material under white led streetlights, they may struggle under full beam HID headlights with low pressure sodium streetlights.
Who knows? Have any of the motoring magazines ever tested them?
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:48 pm
by dvenman
sussex2 wrote:I read an article some time back which largely related to speed limit signs; how they cannot be understood by these systems was I believe something to do with the coating or dressing on them.
It was many moons ago I accepted that not all signs will be seen by humans
I was in the back of Volvo a few months ago with a chap whose car had the traffic sign recognition kit. Worked pretty well. Except it was ignored, for the most part, by the driver...
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:11 am
by sussex2
dvenman wrote:sussex2 wrote:I read an article some time back which largely related to speed limit signs; how they cannot be understood by these systems was I believe something to do with the coating or dressing on them.
It was many moons ago I accepted that not all signs will be seen by humans
I was in the back of Volvo a few months ago with a chap whose car had the traffic sign recognition kit. Worked pretty well. Except it was ignored, for the most part, by the driver...
Few drivers, present company excepted, see and realise the importance of each and every sign they see or pass. The extraordinary explosion of street furniture in recent years will not have helped that.
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:02 am
by Horse
sussex2 wrote:Few drivers, present company excepted, see and realise the importance of each and every sign they see or pass. The extraordinary explosion of street furniture in recent years will not have helped that.
It's worst on routes you 'know'. My regular commute used to involve a 30 limit road, over a crest to a miniroundabout. That had replaced, years before, a T junction with priority for the road I used.
My training acquaintance Kevin Williams had just written an online article suggesting consciously acknowledging every sign you approach.
Preceding the crest? A triangular 'junction to the right' sign . . .
Somewhere in my collection (as a negative and paper print!) is a photo of a country road passing through fields and into the tree line. Just before the 'tunnel' through the dense trees, a 'bend to the right' sign. In the shadows, a bend to the left.
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:51 am
by sussex2
Yes indeed it can be worse on routes you 'know' and worse still on routes you used to 'know'. The latter IMO demanding a great deal more concentration and being able to rely on 'The System' is more than useful.
Re: Bought a new Range Rover Sport HSE Dynamic
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:31 pm
by Horse
It's been mentioned on here or ADUK, the way Japanese 'bullet' train drivers physically point at signals and say them out aloud. Forcing yourself to physically acknowledge signs makes it more difficult to ignore them!
