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Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:15 pm
by jont-
right...?


I mean, what could possibly go wrong :roll:

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:24 pm
by Strangely Brown
Add that to the fact the driver will, necessarily, be completely disengaged from the driving task and it's fun all round.

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:50 pm
by Horse
I've used a lump of metal to hold down the throttle on an HGV. Does that make me a gamer?

Although it was parked off-road and I had to keep the battery charged because of equipment working. Quite boring, really :(

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 pm
by exportmanuk
Make something idiot proof and someone will make a bigger idiot

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:52 pm
by Horse
exportmanuk wrote:Make something idiot proof and someone will make a bigger idiot


A mate of mine says that "It's difficult to make something idiot-proof because idiots are too ingenious"

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:24 pm
by TR4ffic
...and lo and behold https://electrek.co/2018/01/24/tesla-autopilot-federal-scrutiny-again-model-s-crash/

"It wasn't my fault, Officer, it was on autopilot..!"

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:05 pm
by GTR1400MAN
And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:05 pm
by Horse
GTR1400MAN wrote:And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html


"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:38 pm
by jont-
Horse wrote:
GTR1400MAN wrote:And another.

Told by the system SEVEN times to retake control. Dozed off because of reduced workload?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/technology/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-warnings/index.html


"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!

But they can't spot a fire engine parked in their lane:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/2 ... lot_crash/

Re: Safety systems are there to be gamed...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 pm
by GTR1400MAN
Horse wrote:"Hands on the wheel for 25 seconds in 35 minutes". That's not too shabby from the car's perspective!