First fatal accident for self-driving car

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First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby Pyrolol » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:39 am

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/30/12072 ... us-model-s

If I were Google, or any body else developing self-driving cars right now; I wouldn't be too happy with Tesla...

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby ChristianAB » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:19 am

Yeah...hardly surprising. First of many I'm afraid.

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby jont- » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:42 am

Kind of depressing (although inevitable) that the focus is on the Tesla failing to brake rather than why the truck driver pulled across someone coming towards them :roll:

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby waremark » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:42 am

Difficult to identify the cases where autopilot has avoided a serious accident which would have been suffered if driving had been left to the human in the driving seat.

When using cruise control I am always ready to disengage it. How different is it when using the Tesla system?

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby jont- » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:45 am

waremark wrote:When using cruise control I am always ready to disengage it. How different is it when using the Tesla system?

Tesla guidance is that you should always be ready to re-take control. Allegedly if you don't [when it asks you to], it then gently slows the car down and steers to the side of the road. There is youtube footage of people asleep at the wheel of a tesla on autopilot.

It's not really so different to the [apocryphal?] stories of people setting cruise control in their motor homes then going back to make a cup of tea :lol: It doesn't matter how good the technology is, people always find ways to act more stupidly :roll:

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby TR4ffic » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:42 am

jont- wrote:Kind of depressing (although inevitable) that the focus is on the Tesla failing to brake rather than why the truck driver pulled across someone coming towards them :roll:


...or why Joshua Brown, the driver of the Tesla, failed to take control.

I can just see a huge lawsuit looming ...with Tesla feeling the brunt of it.

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby akirk » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:58 am

Pretty sure that Tesla are covered as far as being very specific about their cars not being autonomous, but assisting the driver - i.e. driver bearing ultimate responsibility - I seem to recall they had a number of issues when they uploaded software updates giving autonomous abilities without warning owners first - and they made some changes to their position at that point...

however, very difficult PR to say that the dead person is at fault yet their car which claims to handle a number of scenarios failed - especially as this specific driver had posted a number of videos to youtube on autonomous use of the car including I believe at least one tweeted by Musk... it is a complex situation for lots of reasons!

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby WhoseGeneration » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:17 pm

Oh, it is complex. Just look to commercial flying for how much so.
Boils down to, which system rules and when should the other intervene.

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby Strangely Brown » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:28 pm

WhoseGeneration wrote:Oh, it is complex. Just look to commercial flying for how much so.
Boils down to, which system rules and when should the other intervene.


I thought the dog only had to bite the pilot if he tried to touch the controls?

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Re: First fatal accident for self-driving car

Postby Keithrm » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:52 am

TR4ffic wrote:
jont- wrote:...or why Joshua Brown, the driver of the Tesla, failed to take control.



It would seem he was watching a Harry Potter movie, probably the same effect as nodding off.


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