Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby Strangely Brown » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:23 pm

A little mouse with clogs on?

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby Jonquirk » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:47 pm

Oh well I declare

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby sussex2 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:54 am

We have had self driving cars for years here in Sussex.
It seems though that on most of them the little magic eye that senses things is either blocked or broken.
The cars (Nissan Micra's feature)are all pulling out of blind junctions, ignoring no right turn and one way signs.
An occasional unwise pedestrian who wanders in front of one seems to be only sensed at the very last minute.
In addition their programming has yet to be improved to understand how a mini roundabout works; despite these things having been around for decades.

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby exportmanuk » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:35 pm

My My Sussex2 is having a bad Monday morning :-)
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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby Horse » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:47 pm

sussex2 wrote: In addition their programming has yet to be improved to understand how a mini roundabout works; despite these things having been around for decades.


Actually quite an interesting point. A lot of my daily work involves, one way or another, stuff to do with motorways and 'SMART' motorways. I'm aware of all lane running etc. - but that doesn't make it any easier, when driving down a slip road, to ignore the solid white line and continue forwards on the 'hard shoulder' - however much the gantries tell me too, and however much I know it's legal.

Overcoming 30+ years of driving staying on the 'road' side of the rib line isn't easy while the brain is yelling "No!" at me . . .
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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby ChristianAB » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:44 pm

Horse wrote:So, CAB, are you saying that programming an auto car might be a bit 'hit and miss'? ;)


No. As hard as it seems now to program those cars, the programming of mostly competent cars will seem ridiculously easy compared to the solving of all the other issues that this will raise. In the same way that programming the matrix looked like a good idea to the machines - spoiler alert - until agent smith came after them all.

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby Horse » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:45 pm

ChristianAB wrote:
Horse wrote:So, CAB, are you saying that programming an auto car might be a bit 'hit and miss'? ;)


No. As hard as it seems now to program those cars, the programming of mostly competent cars will seem ridiculously easy compared to the solving of all the other issues that this will raise. In the same way that programming the matrix looked like a good idea to the machines - spoiler alert - until agent smith came after them all.


Re-read it ;) 'hit' . . . 'miss'. Ah well, suit yourself :)
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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby Strangely Brown » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:52 pm

Imagine what would happen when self-driving cars get fuel additives!

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby sussex2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:46 am

exportmanuk wrote:My My Sussex2 is having a bad Monday morning :-)


No, not at all, it's just part of the local entertainment :)
The hesitation at mini roundabouts can often be used to make better progress - get thee behind me, sort of thing.

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Re: Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill

Postby sussex2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:07 pm

Seems these self driving things are doing their best to succeed A Google self driving tin box has collided with a bus.

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/ ... us-4938971

It happened in California and Google (is this a first?) has admitted some responsibility.
The legal responsibility will take 1) A long time to work out 2)Make lawyers even better off.


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