Pedestrians - victim or cause?

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Re: Pedestrians - victim or cause?

Postby exportmanuk » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:38 pm

sussex2 wrote:
We do not have this system of readily recognised places where all road users can anticipate pedestrians may be crossing and a vehicle may need to give way.



When we do have safe crossing places pedestrians still choose not to use them because they have to walk 25 yards further.

There is a crossing very near my house close to a children's centre that is much safer than the place many choose to cross literally it is the other side of a junction but has far better views and traffic light controlled.
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Re: Pedestrians - victim or cause?

Postby dvenman » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:27 am

Isn't the HC signal for turning left to use your right arm, moving it in a circle from the shoulder ? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... road-users

So the "putting right hand up to turn left" is half right ...

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Re: Pedestrians - victim or cause?

Postby gannet » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:28 am

dvenman wrote:Isn't the HC signal for turning left to use your right arm, moving it in a circle from the shoulder ? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... road-users

So the "putting right hand up to turn left" is half right ...

that is for car drivers though while driving cars with no indicators, can't think of a reason a cyclist would use such a signal...

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Re: Pedestrians - victim or cause?

Postby sussex2 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:29 am

exportmanuk wrote:
sussex2 wrote:
We do not have this system of readily recognised places where all road users can anticipate pedestrians may be crossing and a vehicle may need to give way.



When we do have safe crossing places pedestrians still choose not to use them because they have to walk 25 yards further.

There is a crossing very near my house close to a children's centre that is much safer than the place many choose to cross literally it is the other side of a junction but has far better views and traffic light controlled.


The fact remains that we provide very few places where all road users may expect either to cross or find people crossing; those places we have are restricted to a very few expensive crossings.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that people are not going to walk hundreds of yards to find one of these rarities :)
The town I live in has a population of around 50,000 yet there are only four controlled crossings and two, presumably lonely, zebra type crossings several miles apart.

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Re: Pedestrians - victim or cause?

Postby onlinegenie » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:46 am

dvenman wrote:Isn't the HC signal for turning left to use your right arm, moving it in a circle from the shoulder ? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... road-users

So the "putting right hand up to turn left" is half right ...


No, these children were definitely half wits! :lol:
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