Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
A level 5 fully autonomous vehicle won't have any controls apart however it gets its destination selected. So a driving test for one should be fairly easy . . .
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
Perhaps an attitude of 'my car is driving itself so get out of the way' is creeping in.
How I wonder is the hapless pedestrian supposed to distinguish which vehicle is doing what, and when?
How I wonder is the hapless pedestrian supposed to distinguish which vehicle is doing what, and when?
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
sussex2 wrote:Perhaps an attitude of 'my car is driving itself so get out of the way' is creeping in.
How I wonder is the hapless pedestrian supposed to distinguish which vehicle is doing what, and when?
So are you encouraging pedestrians to walk in front of human-controlled cars?
Your 'standard' is how you drive alone, not how you drive during a test.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
Horse wrote:sussex2 wrote:Perhaps an attitude of 'my car is driving itself so get out of the way' is creeping in.
How I wonder is the hapless pedestrian supposed to distinguish which vehicle is doing what, and when?
So are you encouraging pedestrians to walk in front of human-controlled cars?
We know that they do, particularly if they are somehow "impaired", which is why we are ready for them to do so and constantly alert for their presence (even on a 70mph dual carriageway last night).
I suspect Uber has trained it's vehicle control to brake if it identifies an obstacle in front, rather than to drive if the road is clear. This obstacle didn't present as anything it recognised (disguised perhaps by combining wheels and feet), so it carried on.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
Couldn't see the cyclist? Looks like the Uber video was deliberately darkened to excuse their car & driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XOVxSCG8u0
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
ancient wrote:Looks like the Uber video was deliberately darkened to excuse their car & driver
That would be enormously stupid in this day and age. I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but it may also be down to the actual camera in use too.
Either way someone died and I'm sure Uber will catch flack for this.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
ancient wrote:Couldn't see the cyclist? Looks like the Uber video was deliberately darkened to excuse their car & driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XOVxSCG8u0
Handheld camera use while driving
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
jont- wrote:ancient wrote:Couldn't see the cyclist? Looks like the Uber video was deliberately darkened to excuse their car & driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XOVxSCG8u0
Handheld camera use while driving
Maybe a rival AV - and anyway it's AZ, which is where Uber went due to less restrictions than CA: So it's probably perfectly acceptable there
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
Horse wrote:sussex2 wrote:Perhaps an attitude of 'my car is driving itself so get out of the way' is creeping in.
How I wonder is the hapless pedestrian supposed to distinguish which vehicle is doing what, and when?
So are you encouraging pedestrians to walk in front of human-controlled cars?
They will and can at random, they also have the priority in certain situations depending on the place/ country and rules and regs.
It is the attitude of the human who is supposed to be monitoring the vehicle that will answer your question. It could be that some will adopt some sort of thought of priority because they are driving an self driving car 'Can't you see my car is automated'.
Re: Pedestrian killed by self driving car.
ancient wrote:jont- wrote:ancient wrote:Couldn't see the cyclist? Looks like the Uber video was deliberately darkened to excuse their car & driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XOVxSCG8u0
Handheld camera use while driving
Maybe a rival AV - and anyway it's AZ, which is where Uber went due to less restrictions than CA: So it's probably perfectly acceptable there
Just because it might be legal doesn't mean it's any less braindead than the AV that caused the original problem
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