RoSPA launches website to keep older drivers safe on the roads

[dave51]

I'm less sure about the latter point. The roads are there to allow people to get from A-B. We have a general problem of de-skilling which means many drivers don't/won't overtake, and don't leave return gaps either. The roads are also much busier, so I think we need a new definition of anti-social speed. If you're doing 35 on an NSL road with a long queue behind you (and conditions are good), you're driving at an anti-social speed. Either learn to drive at a reasonable speed, or get off the roads.

The roads are there for all users, not just car drivers who have a theoretical "right" to travel at 60 on roads that do not have a specific limit. Dog walkers, pedestrians, horse riders, animals and tractor drivers also deserve consideration.
The speed limit is a maximum, not a target, and the slow driver ahead may be aware of some risk you have either not noticed or have ignored. Either way they do have a right to be there.

[Gareth]

Either way they do have a right to be there.

But they don't have a right to get arsey when overtaken.

[gannet]

Either way they do have a right to be there.

But they don't have a right to get arsey when overtaken.

or a right to obstruct an overtake.

[TripleS]

Excellent point. Many people confuse 'good' and 'safe'. Someone can be totally rubbish technique-wise, but as long as they keep within their limits they may be fine. They may leave (or lead) a trail of exasperated and frustrated drivers, but they need to deal with that themselves.

I'm less sure about the latter point. The roads are there to allow people to get from A-B. We have a general problem of de-skilling which means many drivers don't/won't overtake, and don't leave return gaps either. The roads are also much busier, so I think we need a new definition of anti-social speed. If you're doing 35 on an NSL road with a long queue behind you (and conditions are good), you're driving at an anti-social speed. Either learn to drive at a reasonable speed, or get off the roads.

Test fail on a DVSA test. A candidate should demonstrate the ability to drive up to the speed limit if conditions allow, and not inconveience others.

Nigel.

Yes indeed, but I really don't care what speed people drive at on the open road, whether it is well over the limit, or well below it. I also don't care about them being unwilling (or unable) to overtake vehicles in front of them; but I do wish they would leave a return gap to aid overtaking by others.

[Horse]

Leading airman Confucious, he say: "Never take off unless you have somewhere to land".

[Jonquirk]

Surely, by definition, having somewhere to take off means that you have somewhere to land.

The real wisdom is not proceeding more than half the distance your fuel will take you unless there is somewhere else to land, within range.

[Horse]

Surely, by definition, having somewhere to take off means that you have somewhere to land.

The real wisdom is not proceeding more than half the distance your fuel will take you unless there is somewhere else to land, within range.

Now tell us how often that compares to overtaking

[TheInsanity1234]

Surely, by definition, having somewhere to take off means that you have somewhere to land.

The real wisdom is not proceeding more than half the distance your fuel will take you unless there is somewhere else to land, within range.

Now tell us how often that compares to overtaking

Well, if you wanted to overtake someone whilst travelling on fumes, you wouldn't want to overtake more than half the vehicle in front in case you suddenly run out 3/4 of the way through the overtake?

[waremark]

Leading airman Confucious, he say: "Never take off unless you have somewhere to land".

I like it.

Superb supposed Confucius (sic) quotes: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... ucius.html

[Horse]

Leading airman Confucious, he say: "Never take off unless you have somewhere to land".

I like it.

Superb supposed Confucius (sic) quotes: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... ucius.html

Good find, with this on that page



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