Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

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crr003
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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby crr003 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:19 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:Watched that last night. Again applying his own interpretation. The HWC clearly sees junctions and RABs as different things otherwise it wouldn't have separate sections for them and/or mention them both in some sentences.

There's even police class 1 in the comments telling him that his instructors are saying they are different and the new rule only applies to junctions.

Another ADI offers advice:
https://youtu.be/X4-PoCp8GPE

He's a sensible chap, partly because he has/had a VX220.

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby hir » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:05 pm

An excellent exposition of a confusing concept.

He is the first person to introduce an element of sanity and common sense into a topic that is completely misunderstood by many drivers.

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby Strangely Brown » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:11 am

So... the answer is, "It depends...".

BTW: his car reviews are also pretty good.

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby hir » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:09 pm

Strangely Brown wrote:So... the answer is, "It depends...".


Exactly. But try explaining that to whoever writes the Highway Code! :(

I once used the phrase “it just depends” during a discussion with a retired advanced-wing instructor from Hendon police driving school. He looked at me as though I had just landed from another planet (which I had metaphorically speaking ). We were discussing use of the manual side of an autobox. He told me in no uncertain terms there were no ifs or buts, and I must always refer to Roadcraft… Unfortunately, Roadcraft had nothing to say about the topic, that’s why we were discussing the issue. I sometimes think how nice it would be if I too was able to think in terms of black and white. Life would be so much simpler. :D

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby crr003 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:43 pm

And there's more:
https://youtube.com/shorts/hPLNAP_kgWQ?feature=share

"...and although it doesn't make it clear in the Highway Code.....". But this is the only document a normal road user will reference.

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby jont- » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:05 pm

crr003 wrote:And there's more:
https://youtube.com/shorts/hPLNAP_kgWQ?feature=share

"...and although it doesn't make it clear in the Highway Code.....". But this is the only document a normal road user will reference.

No, no they won't. I'd put good money on a "normal" road user not having looked at the HC since they passed their test.

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby crr003 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:23 pm

jont- wrote:
crr003 wrote:And there's more:
https://youtube.com/shorts/hPLNAP_kgWQ?feature=share

"...and although it doesn't make it clear in the Highway Code.....". But this is the only document a normal road user will reference.

No, no they won't. I'd put good money on a "normal" road user not having looked at the HC since they passed their test.

I'm trying to be more charitable in my old age. [italics]If[/italics] a road user bothered to update their knowledge over time, the HC would be the "go to" source, not some ADI on the YouTube.

(Although the research organisation AA would agree with you:
https://road.cc/content/news/61-drivers ... ode-295709)

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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby GTR1400MAN » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:11 pm

crr003 wrote:Another ADI offers advice:
https://youtu.be/X4-PoCp8GPE

He's a sensible chap, partly because he has/had a VX220.

He says in the video he thinks it was meant to only apply to T junctions. YES that's why the schedule changes clearly talk about turning into a side road.

Also the rule us only in the junction section of the HWC and NOT the RABs section. The actual changes in the HWC as words has been poorly done.

I'd guess that Note is only from his local test centre and isn't anything official as he's cut and pasted it from an email rather than give a source.
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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby GTR1400MAN » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:13 pm

crr003 wrote:And there's more:
https://youtube.com/shorts/hPLNAP_kgWQ?feature=share

"...and although it doesn't make it clear in the Highway Code.....". But this is the only document a normal road user will reference.

Oh dear he's pushing it again BUT this time he's added loads of caveats.
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Re: Highway Code Review for cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders

Postby crr003 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:43 pm

GTR1400MAN wrote:
crr003 wrote:Another ADI offers advice:
https://youtu.be/X4-PoCp8GPE

He's a sensible chap, partly because he has/had a VX220.

He says in the video he thinks it was meant to only apply to T junctions. YES that's why the schedule changes clearly talk about turning into a side road.

Also the rule us only in the junction section of the HWC and NOT the RABs section. The actual changes in the HWC as words has been poorly done.

I'd guess that Note is only from his local test centre and isn't anything official as he's cut and pasted it from an email rather than give a source.


https://despatch.blog.gov.uk/2022/01/26 ... hway-code/


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