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by userLeft1
Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:49 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

Until you extract yourselves from the legislation and Police rules you will continue to fail to understand how the common law is applied. The above case law pointedly did not discuss a situation in which a Police officer was directing traffic under the legislation quoted above. All of your comments ...
by userLeft1
Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:45 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

You didn't find the instruction vague. You understood it to mean "get out of my way!". The common law duty is not the same as the statutory powers to direct traffic. They have different purposes. The point made in the above case is that if a Police officer instructs you to move your vehicl...
by userLeft1
Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:53 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

Just to clarify, it's not my view of the law. It's the law. As confirmed by all the experts, including the police, that you are steadfastly refusing to believe. The law is in the legislation and the decided cases, not in the heads of so-called experts. My assertions are substantiated by law. You ar...
by userLeft1
Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:45 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

https://webstroke.co.uk/law/cases/johnson-v-phillips-1975 The first function of a constable has for centuries been the preservation of the peace. His powers and obligations derive from the common law and from statute. It is his general duty to protect life and property: see Glasbrook Brothers Ltd. v...
by userLeft1
Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:19 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

If that's not enough, then the 'Blue Light Aware' website will also help explain that it is indeed an offence to pass through a red light in the circumstances described. Thanks for the reference, Rolyan - I hadn't been aware of this website but it's good to know about it. For anyone else who's inte...
by userLeft1
Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:58 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

My response was made with reference to your confidence that what you did was an offence. I suggest it isn't and that anyone who obstructs a Police officer in the course of his duty ought to move out of the way - if it is safe to do so - and not worry that they have been intimidated into committing a...
by userLeft1
Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:56 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

Correct me if I am wrong, but IIAC the police officer must be in uniform and actually directing traffic. They can't direct you from a vehicle. Nigel. This is where Alastair and the self-satisfied Easyshifter are getting confused too. The defence is not made under the statutory powers to direct traf...
by userLeft1
Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:14 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

EasyShifter wrote: Then from behind came not only the sound of a siren but two very firm horn notes, clearly saying, ‘Get out of my way’


OP thought it was an instruction. What else is it?
by userLeft1
Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:32 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

- a policeman can instruct you to take certain actions which otherwise you might not take - but can't do so from behind the wheel of a car behind you! That assertion is both unsubstantiated and misconceived. As I said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You might like to substantiate it by re...
by userLeft1
Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:28 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights
Replies: 134
Views: 104792

Re: Blues and Twos and Traffic Lights

There is no evidence that anyone has been prosecuted for complying with the instructions of a Police officer to get out of his way at traffic lights that involves the driver crossing the 'stop' line. This is the sort of discussion that makes me doubt the veracity of your assertion. Pepipoo? You wil...

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