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by Gareth
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:31 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

It struck me later that it could have been a deliberate action, to take some attention / concentration, so that I couldn't focus on 'putting on a show'. It seems to me this would have been done to help you feel at ease. but then it's up to you how long it continues and how involved the conversation...
by Gareth
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:44 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

So Edmund Kean, do you have more examples that we might consider, to allow the readers an opportunity to compare differing approaches, to see which they like best, and maybe to interject with a variation neither of us might have considered?
by Gareth
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

I do believe from the above overtaking example - I have acted in accord with an element of roadcraft, that being… Giving clear information. Having slept on it, I'm less certain that's true. Information only has value if it's received. I would view what you described as an attempt to be courteous, d...
by Gareth
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:27 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

How much delay do you mean, low single-figure seconds delay, or longer? Not sure where this fits in the sequence of this part of the conversation. If you explain, I'll try to answer. perhaps a more important point is 'why had your attention dropped?' - maybe an indication that instead of going for ...
by Gareth
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

Given the potential for severe consequences if it goes wrong, erring on the side of caution - Vs a hurried mistake - has to be better IMO. sometimes I'm not as prepared as I should be I ought to have been more clear about this, thinking the short-hand would be understood; I wasn't paying as much at...
by Gareth
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:43 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

I believe I communicated my clear intention to overtake with road position As do I. with one final confirmation of the when - the indicator being activated. I believe I communicated suitably and with courtesy to the van driver. Hmm, it would be interesting to be able to ask the generally disengaged...
by Gareth
Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

It is my belief that having transitioned to the offside, I am still ‘intending’ to overtake and accordingly my indicator should be activated signalling and telegraphing as such. Only until I am safely alongside or passed the vehicle, does the status of intention change to that of overtaking - in ot...
by Gareth
Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

In the context of single carriageway overtakes and where it's necessary to indicate at all, I view indicating as telling other road users of my intention to move out. Once I'm out, I've done which I'd intended and signalled. Moving out isn't ever a commitment to pass or, if it is, there's something ...
by Gareth
Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

in the book John Lyon advocates cancelling the (intention to overtake) indicator when overtaking on a multilane carriageway before the wheels cross the lane division line system. If the driver is holding roughly to the centre of their lane while indicating until it's clear other road users have und...
by Gareth
Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:14 am
Forum: Advanced Driving - Cars
Topic: Use of Indicator for Overtaking
Replies: 57
Views: 863

Re: Use of Indicator for Overtaking

Could you clarify that, please. Sure. I remember two cyclists, one further out than the other, with not enough view to safely pass as they climbed towards the crest on a left bend. As we approached the crest, before the view developed but where it would soon, I started indicating. As the view start...

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