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vanman wrote:out as far as Coulsdon, well south of Croydon. Something perhaps I should have been aware of, or has this been kept quiet?

The map I saw suggests that in October 2021 it will be extended to just inside the north/south circular, with those roads being specifically excluded.

Triquet wrote:I really would have been better off driving the Aero on the paddles

You should talk to a_d_e_ - he has recent relevant experience

The point was - why would you want to add extra layers of complication to a thing designed to simplify the operation of a vehicle. I think they're not designed to simplify operation. Instead, I reckon they're designed to sell even more cars to disinterested punters, by enabling them to delude thems...

OldenBill wrote:if courtesy causes others to feel urinated away then they should, in my opinion, be ashamed to call themselves Advanced Drivers.

Why do you not care how 'non-advanced' motorists feel or react?

OldenBill wrote:the original Three Cs Roadcraft maxim, "Care,Courtesy & Consideration" will still nag me when I see another motorist requiring help.

It's all very well to be courteous but best to avoid misplaced courtesy. There's an article on the Bristol IAM website that talks about this ...

GTR1400MAN wrote:What is all this talk of being passed by a lorry?

Keeping slightly above the indicated speed limit in motorway roadworks, where some heavies like to go a bit quicker, for example.

My point is regarding allowing a right signalling vehicle to move out from a stationary position on the nearside into forward traffic where a gap is left, but the gap leaver's eyes cannot be clearly seen and no indication of "giving way" is given by hand or headlights. I don't allow space...

The main time I do give a headlamp flash, and it will be a fairly long one, is on a multi-lane road after I've been passed by a heavy, and I'm letting them know that I'm willing to deal with the consequences if they move over into the lane I'm using.

Are you saying I should join the local IAM Group? Not especially, was thinking more about the sort of informal days various of us participating in this forum arrange, where we meet up and go for short drives together, taking it in turns to drive our own car for perhaps an hour to an hour and a half...

Let's Talk More If a conclusion through discussion is elusive, I find exploring by doing very helpful. Try to take part in a driving day sometime ... This is all sound advice but I have noticed that many drivers, perhaps to avoid litigation, will stop and leave a gap for another vehicle to pull out...